On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 29/10/13 15:05, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> > I understand the need to do downsides, but this seems like a very
> > harsh penalty. It would be easy to vouch for someone at some point,
> > and at some point 5 years in the future, that someone does something
> > bad and gets banned. Is it still fair for the original vouching person
> > to be penalized for that?
>
> Good point. Perhaps the connection should expire after a year.
>

My suggestion would be to follow Ubuntu's foot steps by expiring annually
but allowing people to renew in Mozillians.org. In Ubuntu we have
"Membership" and each year it expires but you can login to Launchpad and
tick to renew for another year. This should be easy to add as a feature to
Mozillians.org

Maybe add a e-mail group or something with auto-expiring membership heck it
might make sense to offer a auto-expiration feature for all groups on
Mozillians.org to ensure only active contributors are in groups?


>
> > It seems like timeliness of the vouching must play a role here. The
> > scheme I just came up with is, once you get 2 people to vouch for you,
> > you get 4 points to vouch with for others (i.e. limiting the amount of
> > vouches you can give out, adding some cost to vouching). But, vouches
> > deteriorate over time, so after, say, a year, your 2 initial vouches
> > are worth less than 1.0, and your access gets revoked unless you find
> > some people to vouch for you again. Since people may migrate to
> > different areas of the community, it may make sense to have other
> > people vouch for you this time compared to last time.
>
> That seems more complex than the above suggestion. Do you think simply
> disconnecting voucher and vouchee after a year (i.e. after that, you
> stand on your own two feet) would work?
>
> Gerv
>
>
>
All this vouching seems simply like adding trivial work for others. I
suggest we create a group on Mozillians.org and add a auto-expire feature
and renew membership feature to the platform that all group admins can
choose to enable.

People wanting a e-mail can join the group and it will be administered by
the POC for adding email accounts. In order to join the group a Mozillian
much have been vouched.



-- 
Benjamin Kerensa
Mozilla Rep
http://mozillausa.org
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