I feel confident in asserting that many of the vouches on mozillians.orgwere just "I know this person!"
But I also think simply adding the responsibility aspect of vouching, ie "I know this person!" + "I agree to be held responsible for their actions for x period of time" would have made a giant impact on who was vouched by whom. I think we don't necessarily need to worry about moving the bar for the first half because that is built in to the second half. I'm not going to agree to put my contributions to Mozilla on the line for someone who I've seen posting on a newsgroup once or twice. To know someone well enough to vouch for them will mean I've had to have worked with them, which means they would have had to be contributing to Mozilla in a significant enough way for me to feel confident enough in them. The outlier is someone who is bringing a friend into Mozilla, they will already have personal trust. I think another time limit might be useful here. Must have had a Mozillians account for at least x amount of time. Sometimes a timeline is artificial, but I think it's ok in this case because ideally we are granting emails to people who will continue to use them for Mozilla contributions. A timeline will help show if the person has come in to contribute to one project then move on, ie if they are just visiting town or if they've decided to move here ;) On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote: > On 01/11/13 22:39, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > > To me vouching is more than just signaling someone has made a > contribution > > to Mozilla but that they have made a sustaining contributions and deserve > > the trust of the community and project. > > But that's the thing - you say "to me". I would assert that it's obvious > that not many people share this view (although I do), and that because > what it means to vouch for someone was not clearly defined early on, the > bar has historically been very low. And even if we raise it now, we have > a big grandfathering problem. > > > When people vouch someone they are guaranteeing that the person is > > trustworthy and a sustained good contributor IMHO. > > Do you really think that all or most existing mozillians.org vouches had > that level of trust associated with them? > > Gerv > > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
