Benjamin,

I agree it's a sort of busy-work, but I'm sure it will happen faster than
adding a feature into Mozillians.

I don't think we should be worried about initial seeding being slow. Slow
is good, it lets us see if our plan had blind spots. Things take a LOT more
time to get into motion than it seems. Think about how long we've been
talking about giving out email addresses to community. If doing it right
means it'll take another 6 months before it's properly seeded and accounts
are getting into people's hands I think that's a much better outcome than
doing it quick and dirty and it being a failure.

Case in point, Mozillians was supposed to have this trust structure and it
was too easy to establish trust (one vouch, you can vouch right away). Now
we have to reinvent the wheel. Not necessarily a bad thing, I think it's ok
that Mozillians has turned out this way, but I don't think that was the
original intent.


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 01/11/13 16:59, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> > All this vouching seems simply like adding trivial work for others. I
> > suggest we create a group on Mozillians.org and add a auto-expire feature
> > and renew membership feature to the platform that all group admins can
> > choose to enable.
> >
> > People wanting a e-mail can join the group and it will be administered by
> > the POC for adding email accounts. In order to join the group a Mozillian
> > much have been vouched.
>
> This last sentence is precisely what we are all discussing :-)
>
> There is a body of opinion which feels that "being vouched" in the
> current mozillians.org is too low a bar for getting an @mozilla.org
> email address, given the reputational risk that giving them out
> represents to Mozilla. If you think otherwise, then make your case - but
> at the moment, you seem to be treating "who can get one" as a minor
> detail to be tacked on to the end of a detailed exposition of how to
> administer it. Whereas, who can get one is actually the big question :-)
> The technical implementation is the trivial bit.
>
> Gerv
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