On Jan 7, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 19/12/13 20:48, Asa Dotzler wrote: >> I introduced my concern -- that Mozillians in the West often drop in to >> discussions like this with little or no local context and propose that >> other Mozillians in other radically different areas of the world should >> "just do what we do in California and it'll all be great" as if it was >> all that simple and easy. I consider those kinds of naive suggestions >> unhelpful and in some cases even insulting to the people who have put in >> huge Mozilla efforts spanning years (a decade even) trying to figure out >> these radically different markets that don't behave at all like how most >> Western Mozillians expect. > > While I of course agree that different countries are different, I think > that Mozilla should not be afraid to or ashamed of having a strong > opinion as to what users deserve, and working hard to get it for them > everywhere. > > Is tracking users across sites bad everywhere, or only in the West? I > guess one's answer may depend on whether one is a relativist or not. :-) > I'm not, so I'm pretty happy with saying that it's bad everywhere, and > that we shouldn't do it (or give others the facilities to do it) in the > USA and we shouldn't do it in China. The fact that Chinese people have > this happen to them far more often and far more egregiously, such that > they shrug their shoulders and accept it, is _more_ of a reason to not > do it, not less. On the other hand, we have to make sure we’re being pragmatic about our goals. Many have argued that things like quirks mode, document.all detection and other compatibility hacks were against web standards, but they were necessary for adoption. When we first announced a revenue deal with Google, many accused us of “selling out” or even being corrupted by money. But without both of those, where would we be? We needed revenue to scale and compete, we needed enough compatibility with enough web content that we could grow enough share to convince more sites to target standards compliances. I’m all for doing the right thing in as many cases as possible, but we should also be very intentional about how those decisions impact the big picture and the overall mission. — Mike _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
