taking cues from Anivar one may ask: "Is there proof against MOdi?"

sugata is no different. as a journo worked TVM i hve to prove that, but my
chief told me to dump evrything and anything against her..(sorry i vent
recorded our conversation to shwo CID anivar)  then i came to know that
sugatha is a big BIG BUSINESS FACTORY... nobody can touch it... (same i
heard very recently from one of my wrter friends) Otherwise why Madhyamam
and Mathrubhumi afraid of her? (chalo another topic for research anivar)...

who is askng her not to participate. let her come and BLESS the activists.
but i ve the right to prtest, that i did

and i must say that at this point that please dont HUMILIATE mayilamma by
comparing her with sugata kinda elevated persona s .....

i know the problems at ground level struggle (unlike Dilip) . it is not so
easy  and bz of thsi sugata's exploit the situation and activists have to
resort to play around in tune with these people.... take any movement....
what happend in plachimada, adivasi samaram, etc???
so instead of wasting time on celebrities (they r like dilip and me...very
safe and appear to preach and bless the struggle....they never struggle..no
need for them)...
for the people of athirappally it's der life, for US it's politcs of
business (it could be anything. from literature to sex racket ).... what
more to say...kudos to those who fight and fight in vain  .. need to
re-think and re-define our activisms... if possible, if willing, if
responsible... i feel so, therefore i write... i m no activist, but a human
being with little ground level experience and is wroking for a cause and
belive that WE NEED A HEART TO LEAD A MOVEMENT

thank u very much

with due respect to the people of athirappally and their struggle
and with reservations against celebrity PR games


On 26/09/2007, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> is it like no celebrity should support any people's struggle unless
> they 've a 'clean' biography of political correctness even in her/his
> bedroom?
>
> modi is a criminal in legal term itself. so comparing sugathakumari with
> him is not viable.
>
> what about 'real' people who come up to celebrity level thru the struggle
> like rashida bee, champa devi, mailamma etc.? do we need to run after them
> also with the lens of morality-check?
>
> isnt' it stopping the proposed athirapally project primary concern? or a
> comprehensive revolution to solve all kinds of political incorrectness and
> moral issues?
>
>
> On 9/26/07, Sudeep K S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Anivar, Santhosh, Anil, Raju, Murali, Prasanth, Dileep and others,
> >
> > It is true that Ranju did not substantiate his concerns well. I have
> > had problems with that style and have tried to communicate that to
> > him.
> >
> > But I am afraid that with almost everyone else jumping on him and
> > accusing him of "talking of people rather than issues", we are
> > deviating from the real concerns, much more than Ranju did.
> >
> > I believe ranju has a point and there is reason for concern when
> > someone like Sugathakumari is invited to visit Athirappalli and to
> > "declare solidarity for the
> > protests". My main concern is that the real issue of people involved
> > in the struggle will be forgotten, and it will become labelled as one
> > of those "romantic" protests to "save environment". (Like how the "CSE
> > report" helped in labeling all protests against Colas as something
> > against the pesticide content.)
> >
> > I say so because that is the way Sugathakumari has dealt with other
> > issues related to environment.  In a very naive "hug the trees,
> > protect animals" mode, and dangerously apolitical.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -sudeep
> >
> > On 9/24/07, Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Renjit, The amount of hate in your mail does not benefit the struggle
> > in
> > > athirappilly.
> > > You have to prove your assumptions before dumping hate on her
> > >
> > > Ranjit Ranjit wrote:
> > >  > to anil
> > >  >
> > >  > why should we let them (sugata kinda people) live at people's cost?
> > >
> > > Do you have any proof of it?
> > >
> > >  > who is afraid of Sugatakumari>
> > >
> > > That is offtopic for this list
> > >
> > >  > why mallu media protectng her ?
> > >
> > > At first You have to prove mallu media is protecting her . If it is so
> > > it may be a good topic for research.
> > >  > why mallu green activists blind to her tricks?
> > >
> > > You have to prove
> > > 1. she have tricks
> > > 2. Mallu activists are blinds ( Happy to know that you are not in that
> > > list )
> > > 3 Why question only comes after that
> > >
> > >
> > > Temporarily You are under moderation now. The discussions must be on
> > > issues, not people
> > >
> > > Anivar
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>


-- 
Ranjit

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