Dear Sudeep, My main concern is that the real issue of people involved in the struggle will be forgotten, and it will become labelled as one of those "romantic" protests to "save environment".
Let me remind you that this is not the first time that such concerns are voiced in connection with environmental struggles in India. Amirkhan's [ and Arundhathi's] intervention in Narmada issue at a particular juncture as well as Achuthanandan's intervention in Plachimada evoked similar feeling among the sympathisers. Opinion is still devided both within and out of those struggling people. I personally consider V S Achuthanandan and Sugathakumari as mere participants in an ongoing struggle . It is the criminal blindness of Malayalam media toward civil society struggles which resisit being incorporated into left/ right [ now leftVS / left Pinarayi] logic that necessitates / make visible the interventions of such 'stars'. Just look into the long history of resistence Athirappalli and see the efforts which kept the issue live and facilitated the interventions of 'stars'. Instead of criticising the media , why should we pour our moral outrage on VS or Sugathakumari? Isn't it the helplessness of those who are struggling for years which prompt them to rely on 'stars' ? Do you think that it is due to lack of 'bodhavalkkaranam' that they opt this way? Are you not insulting those activists by not considering them as equals? Now having said that , I strongly doubt whether your accusations against Sugathakumari will stand. Do anybody here have a record of issues in which she intervened during past ten years and details as to the the mode of intervention? I remember her presence in Mavoor. No, it was not a 'romantic ' one. She deserve to be called 'activist ' like so many others who participated in it. I also disagree with her standpoints on emergency and Hindutwa . But I am against VS Achuthanandan's positions on so many issues including Mavoor in the past. Everybody here seems to be happy in traditional left 's newfouond environment premam [ its not hijacking but historic victory!!]. It ofcourse is the victory of Athirappalli struggle that they are able to persuade Sugathakumari and many of us make our position public at this point of time. Let me make a [serious] correction on my previous statement on Ranjith. I wanted Anivar to neglect his moralistic / consciously agressive remarks. Not his all interventions if he really want to avoid discussion deviating from issues. On 9/26/07, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi sudeep, > > NO. discussion here is about political correctness only. and about the > eligibility of sugathakumari to support the struggle. > > all of us (hopefully) share the worries of this issue from relatively safe > location, as dileep said. > > based on supreme court's observation of gujarath govt's failure to stop > anti-muslim riot and many reports of modi govt's active support to it > make him entitled to be called 'criminal'. a free investigation and legal > process wud put him in prison. > > > On 9/26/07, Sudeep K S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dear Salim, > > > > We are not talking about having political correctness in one's > > bedroom. We are talking about a possible change in the way the > > struggle of people of Athirappilly will be presented to the society, > > and a possible change in direction of the protests. > > > > And it is also not just about someone voluntarily extending support to > > the movement. When those who are involved in the movement invite > > someone to extend support, it has a different meaning. > > > > Please go through my mail once again and tell us whether you share my > > concern/worry in this particular issue, if you don't mind. You can all > > attack Ranjit after that or alongside. > > > > Regards, > > > > -sudeep > > > > PS: I would like to know which court has named Modi a criminal-- when > > you say "a criminal in legal terms". Or if you mean something else by > > that, please explain. > > > > > > On 9/26/07, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > is it like no celebrity should support any people's struggle unless > > they 've > > > a 'clean' biography of political correctness even in her/his bedroom? > > > > > > modi is a criminal in legal term itself. so comparing sugathakumari > > with him > > > is not viable. > > > > > > what about 'real' people who come up to celebrity level thru the > > struggle > > > like rashida bee, champa devi, mailamma etc.? do we need to run after > > them > > > also with the lens of morality-check? > > > > > > isnt' it stopping the proposed athirapally project primary concern? or > > a > > > comprehensive revolution to solve all kinds of political incorrectness > > and > > > moral issues? > > > > > > > > > On 9/26/07, Sudeep K S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anivar, Santhosh, Anil, Raju, Murali, Prasanth, Dileep and > > others, > > > > > > > > It is true that Ranju did not substantiate his concerns well. I have > > > > had problems with that style and have tried to communicate that to > > > > him. > > > > > > > > But I am afraid that with almost everyone else jumping on him and > > > > accusing him of "talking of people rather than issues", we are > > > > deviating from the real concerns, much more than Ranju did. > > > > > > > > I believe ranju has a point and there is reason for concern when > > > > someone like Sugathakumari is invited to visit Athirappalli and to > > > > "declare solidarity for the > > > > protests". My main concern is that the real issue of people involved > > > > in the struggle will be forgotten, and it will become labelled as > > one > > > > of those "romantic" protests to "save environment". (Like how the > > "CSE > > > > report" helped in labeling all protests against Colas as something > > > > against the pesticide content.) > > > > > > > > I say so because that is the way Sugathakumari has dealt with other > > > > issues related to environment. In a very naive "hug the trees, > > > > protect animals" mode, and dangerously apolitical. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -sudeep > > > > > > > > On 9/24/07, Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Renjit, The amount of hate in your mail does not benefit the > > struggle in > > > > > athirappilly. > > > > > You have to prove your assumptions before dumping hate on her > > > > > > > > > > Ranjit Ranjit wrote: > > > > > > to anil > > > > > > > > > > > > why should we let them (sugata kinda people) live at people's > > cost? > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any proof of it? > > > > > > > > > > > who is afraid of Sugatakumari> > > > > > > > > > > That is offtopic for this list > > > > > > > > > > > why mallu media protectng her ? > > > > > > > > > > At first You have to prove mallu media is protecting her . If it > > is so > > > > > it may be a good topic for research. > > > > > > why mallu green activists blind to her tricks? > > > > > > > > > > You have to prove > > > > > 1. she have tricks > > > > > 2. Mallu activists are blinds ( Happy to know that you are not in > > that > > > > > list ) > > > > > 3 Why question only comes after that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Temporarily You are under moderation now. The discussions must be > > on > > > > > issues, not people > > > > > > > > > > Anivar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dileep R I thuravoor --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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