Dont keep equal distance to all the kakkis!!
shahina
On 10/22/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Poleesukaran is that kakki kuppayam for me...
>
> Regards
> Afthab Ellath
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>> Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam policukaran' being
>> laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
>> shahina
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jenny,
>>>
>>> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>>>
>>> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will only
>>> communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I don't have a
>>> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar ideological
>>> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in another. In
>>> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in altogether
>>> different context may be challenging the power or any structure. I don't
>>> have an example in this regard now.
>>>
>>> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by Ayyappa
>>> Panicker. It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in the emergency context.
>>> Satchi mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself challenged it by
>>> reading it in altogether different dimension} .
>>>
>>> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my scrap as
>>> "academic poetry", Pls.)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Friends,
>>>>
>>>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological
>>>> purpose..
>>>>
>>>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
>>>> associated with jokes.
>>>>
>>>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>>>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power
>>>> structures.
>>>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>>>
>>>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
>>>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
>>>> including academics..
>>>>
>>>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan Mani
>>>> some questions in a job interview.
>>>>
>>>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine patti
>>>> ningalude abhipraayam??
>>>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>>>>
>>>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil ethaam.
>>>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
>>>> * *
>>>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant
>>>> structures,
>>>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>>>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>>>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>>>
>>>> there are many feminist jokes like this too-
>>>>
>>>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a joke
>>>> serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>>>
>>>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>>>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>>>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>>>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>>>
>>>> jenny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> shahina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and
>>>>>> seek proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along with
>>>>>> Zhadanov..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a
>>>>>> disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has read
>>>>>> it!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the neo-peasantry
>>>>>> model of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many prejudices........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if with
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can
>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are
>>>>>>> deeply
>>>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>>>> > >> *
>>>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not translate
>>>>>>> and if
>>>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national
>>>>>>> claim to be
>>>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for circulation.
>>>>>>> It would
>>>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE get
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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