On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But I don't agree with the idea there are only political jokes... There was
> a friend of mine in college, who made us laugh whenever he wanted
> irrespective of our political orientation... Those joke never remained in us
> for long time as well... Even his laughter made us laugh...
>
> Regards
> Afthab Ellath
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Poleesukaran is that kakki kuppayam for me...
>>
>> Regards
>> Afthab Ellath
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam policukaran' being
>>> laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
>>> shahina
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jenny,
>>>>
>>>> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>>>>
>>>> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will only
>>>> communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I don't have a
>>>> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar ideological
>>>> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in another. In
>>>> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in altogether
>>>> different context may be challenging the power or any structure. I don't
>>>> have an example in this regard now.
>>>>
>>>> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by Ayyappa
>>>> Panicker. It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in the emergency
>>>> context.
>>>> Satchi mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself challenged it by
>>>> reading it in altogether different dimension} .
>>>>
>>>> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my scrap as
>>>> "academic poetry", Pls.)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological
>>>>> purpose..
>>>>>
>>>>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
>>>>> associated with jokes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>>>>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power
>>>>> structures.
>>>>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
>>>>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
>>>>> including academics..
>>>>>
>>>>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan Mani
>>>>> some questions in a job interview.
>>>>>
>>>>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine patti
>>>>> ningalude abhipraayam??
>>>>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil
>>>>> ethaam.
>>>>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
>>>>> * *
>>>>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant
>>>>> structures,
>>>>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>>>>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>>>>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>>>>
>>>>> there are many feminist jokes like this too-
>>>>>
>>>>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a joke
>>>>> serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>>>>
>>>>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>>>>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>>>>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>>>>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>>>>
>>>>> jenny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> shahina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and
>>>>>>> seek proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along with
>>>>>>> Zhadanov..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a
>>>>>>> disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has
>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>> it!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the neo-peasantry
>>>>>>> model of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many prejudices........
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if with
>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can
>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are
>>>>>>>> deeply
>>>>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>>>>> > >> *
>>>>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not translate
>>>>>>>> and if
>>>>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national
>>>>>>>> claim to be
>>>>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for circulation.
>>>>>>>> It would
>>>>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE get
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
> >
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