and it was bz of this affirmative action progrm that Kalpana Chaula became
one among them
another joke!!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:51 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Here is a recently circulating joke -
> please do laugh, you can't live without laughing, can you??
> am going, have better things to do,
> bye !
>
> *Manmohan Singh said to George Bush - "We are sending Indians to the
> moon next year".
>
> Bush - "Wow! How Many?"
>
> Manmohan Singh - "about 100 - and in the following order:
>
> 25 - OBC
>
> 25 - SC
>
> 20 - ST
>
> 5 - Handicapped
>
> 5 - Sports Persons
>
> 5 - Terrorist Affected
>
> 5 - Kashmiri Migrants
>
> 9 - Politicians
>
> and if possible
>
> 1 - Astronaut*
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:43 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the admission.
>>
>> 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> I AM A VERY BORING, DULL, UNI-DIMENSIONAL PERSON
>>> I NO MORE LAUGH WHEN THE JOKE IS ON ME AND MINE -
>>> I HIT BACK, EITHER WITH WORDS OR MY HAND,
>>>
>>> lol
>>> jenny
>>>
>>> On
>>>  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But I don't agree with the idea there are only political jokes... There
>>>>> was a friend of mine in college, who made us laugh whenever he wanted
>>>>> irrespective of our political orientation... Those joke never remained in 
>>>>> us
>>>>> for long time as well... Even his laughter made us laugh...
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Poleesukaran is that kakki kuppayam for me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam policukaran'
>>>>>>> being laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
>>>>>>>   shahina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jenny,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will only
>>>>>>>> communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I don't have a
>>>>>>>> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar 
>>>>>>>> ideological
>>>>>>>> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in another. 
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in altogether
>>>>>>>> different context may be challenging the power or any structure. I 
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> have an example in this regard now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by Ayyappa
>>>>>>>> Panicker. It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in the emergency 
>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>> Satchi mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself challenged it 
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> reading it in altogether different dimension} .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my scrap as
>>>>>>>> "academic poetry", Pls.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological
>>>>>>>>> purpose..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
>>>>>>>>> associated with jokes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>>>>>>>>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power
>>>>>>>>> structures.
>>>>>>>>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
>>>>>>>>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
>>>>>>>>> including academics..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan
>>>>>>>>> Mani some questions in a job interview.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine
>>>>>>>>> patti ningalude abhipraayam??
>>>>>>>>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil
>>>>>>>>> ethaam.
>>>>>>>>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant
>>>>>>>>> structures,
>>>>>>>>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>>>>>>>>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>>>>>>>>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there are many  feminist jokes like this too-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a
>>>>>>>>> joke serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>>>>>>>>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>>>>>>>>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>>>>>>>>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jenny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <
>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> shahina
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes
>>>>>>>>>>> and seek proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and 
>>>>>>>>>>> supply a
>>>>>>>>>>> new collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along
>>>>>>>>>>> with Zhadanov..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was
>>>>>>>>>>> a disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one 
>>>>>>>>>>> has read
>>>>>>>>>>> it!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the
>>>>>>>>>>> neo-peasantry model of POL POT where laughter itself was 
>>>>>>>>>>> politically wrong!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many
>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices........
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>>>>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>>>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if
>>>>>>>>>>>> with sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that
>>>>>>>>>>>> are deeply
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not
>>>>>>>>>>>> translate and if
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national
>>>>>>>>>>>> claim to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for
>>>>>>>>>>>> circulation. It would
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE
>>>>>>>>>>>> get those
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> James Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> >
>

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