Is there any thing wrong in losing a match. A loser invokes pain...
Regards
Afthab Ellath
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:53 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree too.
> I was wondering the earlier "Man" of the metch thing was a dig at Jenny or
> a Joke.
>
>
>
> 2008/10/22 Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Sorry Mr James,I whole heartedly selected Jenny as the person of the
>> match,in solidarity to her.Sorry to say that you faied to score even one
>> wicket!
>>
>> shahina
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/08, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That will be a fitting end.
>>> Jenny won't agree though, because of her "prejudices".
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/10/22 Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>> So ,is it over friends?
>>>> Anivar, Shall we announce Jenny 'MAN' of the match?
>>>> shahina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/08, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for the admission :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:59 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are good jokes and bad jokes.
>>>>>> I admit. Did I say I laugh at all the jokes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/10/22 ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it was bz of this affirmative action progrm that Kalpana Chaula
>>>>>>> became one among them
>>>>>>> another joke!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:51 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is a recently circulating joke -
>>>>>>>> please do laugh, you can't live without laughing, can you??
>>>>>>>> am going, have better things to do,
>>>>>>>> bye !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Manmohan Singh said to George Bush - "We are sending Indians to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> moon next year".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bush - "Wow! How Many?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Manmohan Singh - "about 100 - and in the following order:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 25 - OBC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 25 - SC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 20 - ST
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5 - Handicapped
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5 - Sports Persons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5 - Terrorist Affected
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5 - Kashmiri Migrants
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 9 - Politicians
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and if possible
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 - Astronaut*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:43 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the admission.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I AM A VERY BORING, DULL, UNI-DIMENSIONAL PERSON
>>>>>>>>>> I NO MORE LAUGH WHEN THE JOKE IS ON ME AND MINE -
>>>>>>>>>> I HIT BACK, EITHER WITH WORDS OR MY HAND,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>>>>> jenny
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Afthab Ellath <
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I don't agree with the idea there are only political
>>>>>>>>>>>> jokes... There was a friend of mine in college, who made us laugh
>>>>>>>>>>>> whenever
>>>>>>>>>>>> he wanted irrespective of our political orientation... Those joke
>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> remained in us for long time as well... Even his laughter made us
>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Afthab Ellath <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poleesukaran is that kakki kuppayam for me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Shahina KK <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policukaran' being laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shahina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideological
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> altogether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different context may be challenging the power or any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an example in this regard now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ayyappa Panicker. It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the emergency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context. Satchi mash reiterated this argument and Harris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself challenged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by reading it in altogether different dimension} .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scrap as "academic poetry", Pls.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideological purpose..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideology associated with jokes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power structures.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field, including academics..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalabhavan Mani some questions in a job interview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Athine patti ningalude abhipraayam??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mukalil ethaam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dominant structures,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are many feminist jokes like this too-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which a joke serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shahina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jokes and seek proscribing of all those caste-class
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudiced jokes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply a new collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with Zhadanov..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trotsky was a disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one has read it!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-peasantry model of POL POT where laughter itself was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politically wrong!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices........
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very politically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if with sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices. Can anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are deeply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Varghese <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vomit in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not translate and if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national claim to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circulation. It would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE WE get those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> James Michael
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> James Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> James Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> James Michael
>
>
> >
>
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