I agree too.
I was wondering the earlier "Man" of the metch thing was a dig at Jenny or a
Joke.



2008/10/22 Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Sorry Mr James,I whole heartedly selected Jenny as the person of the
> match,in solidarity to her.Sorry to say that you faied to score even one
> wicket!
>
> shahina
>
>
>   On 10/22/08, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> That will be a fitting end.
>> Jenny won't agree though, because of her "prejudices".
>> :)
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/22 Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> So ,is it over friends?
>>> Anivar, Shall we announce Jenny 'MAN' of the match?
>>> shahina
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/22/08, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the admission :)
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:59 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are good jokes and bad jokes.
>>>>> I admit. Did I say I laugh at all the jokes!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/10/22 ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>>  and it was bz of this affirmative action progrm that Kalpana Chaula
>>>>>> became one among them
>>>>>> another joke!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:51 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a recently circulating joke -
>>>>>>> please do laugh, you can't live without laughing, can you??
>>>>>>> am going, have better things to do,
>>>>>>> bye !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Manmohan Singh said to George Bush - "We are sending Indians to the
>>>>>>> moon next year".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bush - "Wow! How Many?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manmohan Singh - "about 100 - and in the following order:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 25 - OBC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 25 - SC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 20 - ST
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5 - Handicapped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5 - Sports Persons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5 - Terrorist Affected
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5 - Kashmiri Migrants
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9 - Politicians
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and if possible
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 - Astronaut*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:43 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the admission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I AM A VERY BORING, DULL, UNI-DIMENSIONAL PERSON
>>>>>>>>> I NO MORE LAUGH WHEN THE JOKE IS ON ME AND MINE -
>>>>>>>>> I HIT BACK, EITHER WITH WORDS OR MY HAND,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>>>> jenny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Afthab Ellath <
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I don't agree with the idea there are only political jokes...
>>>>>>>>>>> There was a friend of mine in college, who made us laugh whenever 
>>>>>>>>>>> he wanted
>>>>>>>>>>> irrespective of our political orientation... Those joke never 
>>>>>>>>>>> remained in us
>>>>>>>>>>> for long time as well... Even his laughter made us laugh...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Afthab Ellath <
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Poleesukaran is that kakki kuppayam for me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Shahina KK <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam
>>>>>>>>>>>>> policukaran' being laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   shahina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideological
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> altogether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different context may be challenging the power or any structure. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an example in this regard now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ayyappa Panicker. It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the emergency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context. Satchi mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by reading it in altogether different dimension} .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scrap as "academic poetry", Pls.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideological purpose..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideology associated with jokes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structures.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field, including academics..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalabhavan Mani some questions in a job interview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Athine patti ningalude abhipraayam??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mukalil ethaam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dominant structures,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are many  feminist jokes like this too-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which a joke serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shahina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jokes and seek proscribing of all those caste-class 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudiced jokes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply a new collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with Zhadanov..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trotsky was a disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one has read it!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-peasantry model of POL POT where laughter itself was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politically wrong!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices........
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very politically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if with sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudices. Can anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are deeply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Varghese <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vomit in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate and if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national claim to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circulation. It would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE WE get those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> James Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> James Michael
>>
>> >>
>>


-- 
James Michael

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