the question that WE forgot to ask is (we often ask this question before entering into commn with anyone) vwhat is the caste of pink? ideological indeed (and i hate those politically correct souls)
advani got it clearly venu seems confused (for him pink is purple).. purple is not pink (not using pink for pub)..that doesnt mean that purple will not go to pub... purple's position is differnt which pink cannot see/imagine and respect. and one who fought against moral policing was a dalit woman whom WE all must be knowng .. her name is chitralekha pink does not address her.. she is not pink, she need not... hence the need to talk abt different colours even in the context of moral policing.. this does not undermine the relevanc of pink..it has its own role... but one cannot stop there ..the whole "feminism" seems to hv been given a stop press order (pink kanda feminism pole ennu VKN type mozhi) ... womanisms will challenge it.. thta is how we make a better and colourful world.. i love a colourful world.. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:25 AM, ranju radha <[email protected]> wrote: > haha > that is why i like politicians..nothing goes "above their head"... > ;-)) > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, ANIL THARAYATH <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> this went above my head will get back... >> >> On Aug 11, 4:04 pm, ranju radha <[email protected]> wrote: >> > i admire Advani in this regard >> > he understood the true politics and his vote bank in pink chaddi and >> > immediately gave a statemnt in support >> > that is why though i disagree with his political ideology, i am with him >> > (politicians) >> > in the sense, i respect politicians >> > they know the pulse of the people and their ideological/political >> position >> > >> > intellectuals/academicns/activists should learn from politicians >> > best >> > >> > 2009/8/11 ANIL THARAYATH <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > And I think that the identity of the group which initiated this was a >> > > urban, english speaking group primarily to which the symbols of >> > > resistance were a subjective part of their day to day lives. They have >> > > not done anything on behalf of any one but acted on a specific >> > > incident. Anyway would like to hear ranjit's views too (I would like >> > > to position my self like this for the time being). >> > >> > > On Aug 11, 1:31 pm, venukm <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Hi, >> > > > Thanks for this; >> > > > I visited the blog and posted a comment somewhat like this though a >> > > > few sentences are being added now: >> > >> > > > That pink chaddi campaign had actually brought in to sharp focus the >> > > > ugliest moral policing by a chauvinist Sri Ram Sene over women, >> finds >> > > > no mention in the post. >> > > > The distinction you make between pink and purple makes no sense, >> > > > especially when one finds that such sparing treatment was not >> > > > available from the Muthalik Moral Brigade to purple women either. >> > > > ( Lot of college going girls were harassed too, even leading to the >> > > > tragic suicide of one poor village girl from >> > > > the hill tracts of Dakshina Kannada district for having been seen >> > > > walking home with a Muslim friend as she got down from a bus coming >> > > > from Mangalore, where she was studying..many many such incidents >> > > > preceded the Mangalore 'pub attack') >> > >> > > > Perhaps the reason why Nisha Susan and others opted for a >> provocative >> > > > but non violent campaign like Pink Chaddi which described itself as >> > > > 'as a consortium of pub going,loose women', might be looked in non- >> > > > partisan ways as well. The assumption here could be that only >> "loose" >> > > > women could do something daring, and take the risk; "Loose" perhaps >> > > > means and includes all who could condemn the cowardliness of those >> who >> > > > speak in tongue- in cheek ways. For example, there are quite a lot >> of >> > > > apologists for Ram Sene. They will never publicly express against >> > > > women's claim for equality, but will often take recourse to the >> alibi >> > > > of tradition and culture. >> > >> > > > You people try to bring the distinction (Pink vs Purple) in the >> > > > most inopportune way, as far as Pink Chaddi Campaign is concerned.. >> > > > This is equivalent to saying in other ways that the attacks by Ram >> > > > Sene were even justifiable had they been directed only against the >> > > > 'Pink' culture (In the popular parlance, this is already named Pub >> > > > Culture), and hence, the non-pink women will have/have/ had no >> issue >> > > > with the Ram Sene. >> > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > (Venu). >> > >> > > > On 9 Aug, 17:18, Ranjit Ranjit <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > wonderful >> > > > > love it >> > >> > > > > വെള്ളൈ അഴകേ, എന് ഉള്ളം >> > > > > ഉനക്കേ...< >> http://vellezhuthth.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_07.html> >> > > > > < >> > > >> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QilWYA4A09o/SlN-j1-0aQI/AAAAAAAAAiU/bCeKpaI...> >> > >> > > > > പിങ്ക് ചഡ്ഡി പ്രചാരണപ്രവര്ത്തനത്തിന് നേതൃത്വം നല്കിയ നിഷാസൂസന് >> > > > > പറഞ്ഞതുപോലെ പിങ്ക് സ്വകാര്യവും സ്വതന്ത്രവുമായ ഒരു നിറമാണെന്ന് >> > > സമ്മതിച്ചാല് >> > > > > തന്നെ അത് പ്രതിനിധീകരിക്കുന്നത് മുഴുവന് സ്ത്രീകളെയുമാണോ എന്നൊരു >> സംശയം >> > > > > കുറച്ചു കഴിഞ്ഞിട്ടാണ് തലയില് ‘അറുപതു വാട്ടുള്ള സൂര്യനായി’ >> കത്തിയത്. >> > > > > അപ്പോഴേയ്ക്കും കറുത്ത പെണ്ണിനെ പിങ്ക് ഒരു തരത്തിലും >> > > > > സൂചിപ്പിക്കുന്നില്ലെന്നും അവളുടെ നിറം വൈലറ്റാണെന്നും പറഞ്ഞ ആലിസ് >> > > > > വാക്കറെപ്പറ്റി നിഖിലാഹെന്റി (പച്ചക്കുതിര) എഴുതിക്കളഞ്ഞു. >> ‘വുമണിസ’ത്തിന് >> > > > > മലയാളത്തില് വ്യാഖ്യാനങ്ങളും ഉണ്ടായി. ‘ഒരേ രക്തം’ എന്നൊക്കെയാണല്ലോ >> > > ആലങ്കാരിക >> > > > > ഭാഷയില് നമ്മള് പറഞ്ഞു പഠിച്ചത് . എന്നിട്ടും പെണ്ച്ചോരയ്ക്കു >> > > > > മാത്രമിങ്ങനെയുള്ള രണ്ടു വ്യാഖ്യാനഭേദങ്ങള് ആരെയാണ് >> > > > > ഇരുത്തിച്ചിന്തിപ്പിക്കാത്തത്? പിങ്കിന്റെ പ്രസാദാത്മകത്വവും >> വരേണ്യതയും >> > > > > നിഗൂഢതയും, ഇരുണ്ട തൊലിയില് ചതഞ്ഞ രക്തം നിറം പിടിപ്പിക്കുന്ന >> > > നീലയ്ക്കില്ല. >> > > > > പ്രകടമായും ഞാറപ്പഴത്തിന്റെ വൈലറ്റ് വിഷാദാത്മകത്വത്തിന്റെ നിറമാണ്. >> > > ലൈംഗികമായ >> > > > > നിഗൂഢത അതിലില്ല. മ്ലാനമുഖമുള്ള നോവാണ് അതിന്റെ പ്രത്യക്ഷാനുഭവം.. >> > >> > > > > An interesting post, athttp:// >> > > vellezhuthth.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_07.html >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Carmel Christy >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Ranjit >> > >> > -- >> > " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class >> > using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will >> be >> > thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing >> > their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the >> > former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue >> we >> > believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional >> > qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human >> > beings." >> > >> > - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 >> >> >> > > > -- > " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class > using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be > thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing > their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the > former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we > believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional > qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human > beings." > > - Dr B.R. 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