Ya, I don't think you were out of place here.

Would you be ok with sticking around to talk about your suggestions a bit? I
think it's worth taking each of them into their own threads.

Chris

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.  I already apologized above for being grumpy
> about this.
>
> However, I hope you can appreciate that, from my point of view, the
> Growl reminder is kind of annoying.  I started getting update messages
> for Growl last week.  These appear in an usual spot, right near the
> upper right of my screen.  I do not have other apps that remind me in
> this way.  When I click the reminder closed (don't update), it just
> comes back again in a few days.  I work on a government computer, and
> we are cautioned about downloading unknow apps or software from the
> Internet or going to unknown web sites.
>
> Clicking on the "X" to close the reminder window and not update does
> not take me to a web page.  Add this to the fact that I don't know
> what Growl is, and don't recall downloading it.  I understand that it
> can come with other apps, or be downloaded without the user's
> knowledge.  Consequently, I don't know how to turn off the reminders,
> and did not know there was a control panel for Grown until I searched
> for it.  To me, the combination of factors adds up to a somewhat
> irritating situation.  The result is I then need to spend some time
> figuring out what Growl is, and why I have it.
>
> I suggest that since Growl can show up unexpectedly, that the
> developers add a couple of things to the reminder window.  First,
> something that suggests what Growl is, or how to find out more about
> it.  Second, an option to turn off the reminders right there, in the
> reminder window.  (Some apps have the option of "Don't remind me
> again.")  This would mean I would not have to hunt for other ways to
> turn the reminders off, and have to discover the control panel on my
> own.
>
> Lastly, my experience with getting user support from forums has been
> spotty at best, so I was not expecting any help when I tried this
> out.  In this case the support is excellent.
>
> Sorry if I was a bit harsh, but I think some of my notes are valid,
> from the point of view of a Mac user who does not know about Growl.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 10:16 am, David Milton <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Richard,
> >
> > I believe you are being unfairly harsh with the developers of Growl.
> >
> > First off, it is entirely likely you installed an application that
> > also installed growl which is the little utility that puts up
> > notification messages on your screen.
> >
> > Secondly, you can turn the update notifications off by going into System
> > Preferences, selecting Growl, clicking on the about tab and removing
> > the check from "Check for updates automatically".  The update
> > notification
> > is there to inform you of new software that you are running. It's there
> > because developers typically IMPROVE their product over time and
> > Growl is no different. If you don't want those bug fixes and
> > improvements
> > it's your loss but that's also your choice. I would hardly consider it
> > SPAM or anonymous since clicking on the notification makes it go away
> > and
> > opens a web page to download the most recent version. I actually think
> > that's a very elegant way of distributing free software. I also like it
> > when Firefox and/or Safari uses Growl to put up notices that tell me
> > downloads have finished or new FireFox Add-On's are available.
> >
> > Lastly, although I'm not one of the developers, this is the correct
> > forum to contact them and I'm sure they have read your message.
> >
> > On 21-Jul-2010, at 9:25, Richard wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dear Growl Developers:
> >
> > > I am getting repeated reminders on my desktop to download the new
> > > version of Growl.  I am not sure what Growl is, and may or may not be
> > > interested in a new version, but do not like this type of intrusive
> > > reminder that will not go away.
> >
> > > Could the Growl team please eliminate this kind of update reminder?
> >
> > > I am also concerned that there is no direct way to contact the
> > > developers, or so it seems.  I suggest that there should be a way to
> > > contact these folks.  They seem to be OK with posting annoying,
> > > anonymous messages (almost like SPAM) on my desktop, but do not seem
> > > to want to be accountable.
> >
> > > Richard
> >
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