Hi John & folks. A very very long time ago I got into a situation where with
a passenger on the back we were taking a turn & right in our path there was
some real big piece of steel that fell off some big truck. I knew I couldn't
stop & slowing down wasn't a good option either. On instinct, I centered the
motorcycle's front wheel as best I could to the object & accelerated enough
in the hopes that when the front end hit the object , it wouldn't just stop
us in our path & propel us into oblivion.Well the result was when the front
wheel hit the object it rolled over it & the whole motorcycle with us on it
leaped right over & we landed with the 2 wheels on the ground & kept going.
We didn't realise it at the time but when we pulled over a riding buddy that
witnessed the whole thing told us that we went a good 15 feet in the air.
The motorcycle had no damage & there was no panic. Another time I was riding
in the back roads & a dump truck full of square logs right in front of me
but at a safe distance lost 1 of those logs & when it hit the road it
started spinning around like a merry go round. Avoiding it altogether or
stopping was not an option as it was like a ground missile coming toward me.
I did the same thing as before & rode right over it. I was quite amazed both
times at the ease of avoiding those obstacles even though they were both
pretty hairy situations after the fact of course.  I think the morale of the
story is when riding, ride defensively, don't stare, look around, look
ahead, be aware of what's in front on the side(s) even behind you & be ready
for any situation that may arise. Oh! and by all means don't panic & don't
tighten up on the motorcycle, keep your cool & things work out OK!. Don't
forget also that when you're on unfamiliar territory it's always better to
slow down. After all riding shouldn't be a competition or race on whose
better or faster or even how good you may think you are. You should never
have anything to prove to anyone.Keep the 2 wheels on the ground & just ride
the motorcycle. Of course practice riding as much as you can. The more you
practice the better you get. Have fun with it, after all it's only a toy.
Don't abuse it & you'll keep it. Be good. Ride safe. Peter Piazza.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Laurenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Time to debunk a myth (was Re: Advice on a purchase)


> Never say never..........exceptions to every debunked myth
>
> Years ago, I was on the way back from Daytona one evening during a couples
> group ride on a dirt bikes, with about 5 other couples, back when I was
into
> enduro's in and dirt bike riding.  We decided to relax and ride the beach
> home.  My wife was on the back and we were the lead bike.  About the same
> time my headlights picked up what appeared to be a rusty bar directly in
our
> path, because its blended into the sand color I didn't see it until we
were
> less than 50 ft. away. I realized I could never stop the bike in time.
>
> Surprisingly the first thing that immediately entered my mind was a
> discussion I had a few months earlier with an older English gentleman.  He
> was talking about the instructions and the tests they had to pass in the
> motorcycle English corps during the war.  They were all instructed the
> safest way to get off a bike on gravel or dirt was to lay it down in a
real
> emergency.  They all were required to lay their bikes down at 50 mph on a
> gravel road as part of their training.
>
> In almost a  reflect reaction I laid the bike down remembering his
comments.
> We slid right up to the obstruction.  If I hadn't we would have definitely
> hit it real hard and it would have been a real mess.  That conversation
> probably saved our lives.  The obstruction was a rusted railroad steel
rail
> fence set up earlier by the PonteVedra beach club to keep dune buggies
away
> from their section of the beach on the Atlantic. It would not have moved
an
> inch if we hit it. They removed it soon after.
>
> I called my friend soon after thanking him for saving our lives. Without
> question we would have hit the rail if I didn't lay the bike down.
>
> hawke
>
> > From: "Phil Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Time to debunk a myth (was Re: Advice on a purchase)
> >
> >
> >> This is not directed at Mark specifically, but at the rather widely
held
> > view
> >> that "layin' it down" is EVER an appropriate emergency procedure.  I
take
> > the
> >> STRONG view that it's not.
> >>
> >> Folks, the rubbery parts will always, ALWAYS give you a better out in
an
> >> emergency than the non-rubbery parts.  To intentionally "lay down" a
bike
> > is to
> >> admit defeat.  Period.  Stay with the bike, USE the massive and
wonderful
> > front
> >> brake our GTSs have, and try to regain control.  Swerve if that's
> > appropriate.
> >>
> >> "Layin' it down" is a technique we DON'T teach at MSF.  We do teach
> > swerving and
> >> braking.  Accident involved motorcyclists often lack those skills.
> >>
> >> My take?  Most people who claimed to intentionally lay down a bike
> > actually used
> >> inappropriate braking technique, lost control, and hate to admit to
wives
> > and
> >> girlfriends (may they never meet) that they're really pretty shitty
> > riders.
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Steiger wrote:
> >>
> >>> acouple of people did mention it would be tough to bring a GTS down in
> > an
> >>> emergency because of how nice it looks, and I do have to agree on that
> > one..
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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