Hi. If browse mode turns on and off automatically you still have to really
know yourself what mode you're in. You still need to know if you can type
in information or use the letter keys for navigation. No matter how
automatic things are you are still the human who can determine what the
machine has done. At this point in time there are at least three products
which pop you into edit mode automatically. There are definitely mixed
reviews on how well this really does work. The more automatic things are
the less control you have. Things can really get even more confusing when
you give up more control because you may not really know what you're
supposed to do next. The manual toggling of browse mode tells you where you
are. You're either in reading or writing mode. I guess I just don't
understand why this is so difficult.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]>
To: "'Jim Grimsby JR.'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: Browse mode question
Yes. I guess I wish it would be automatic and consistant. So I wouldn't
need to do anything to it.
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:53 AM
To: Sandra Fouts
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Browse mode question
I don't think we are disagreeing here. I think it comes down to you want
brows mode but you want it to turn off and then back on when you need it to
without you having to think about it. I myself would rather see brows mode
have its own set of commands so it does not in any way interferer or change
the way the browser works. It would be like controlling the mouse. I would
also like to see this extend to office programs as well. So we could have
commands to move to heading forms etc without having to toggle a mode or
only having the list feature. Another reason why we really need more
keyboard modifiers like caps lock scrolled lock and the efercheation between
left and right control alt keys and in insert keys.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:29 AM
To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.'
Subject: RE: Browse mode question
Jim, let's agree to disagree. I just want to worik.
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:09 AM
To: Sandra Fouts
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Browse mode question
Now what you are talking about has nothing what so ever to do with brows
mode what you are talking about now has to do with the way pages are
created.
Remember with brows mode turned off the browser has control over the tab
key and reports to window-eyes what the browser thinks needs to be read.
Here is what you do. Use brows mode to move to the first form control.
Turn brows mode off enter the text. Turn brows mode back on use brows mode
to move to the next control turn brows mode off etc. you can even use the
list controls feature to move to controls while in brows mode. Place
markers can be used to mark spots of interest on pages etc. while it might
be nice to have a automatic brows mode off and on feature on controls so
far when using programs that have that feature it is more problems then it
is worth.
Errors. I almost made them on Sunday. Because I need to fill in edit boxes
but I couldn't read other things on the screen with it being turned off. I
almost put in wrong information. I'm having lots of problems with t here at
work but I only have 6.1 so I can't do much about that at this time. Just
wish they get on with it and fix it!
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Pietruk [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:24 AM
To: Jim Grimsby JR.
Cc: Sandra Fouts; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Browse mode question
Sandra
While I can appreciate your frustrations at times, I, like Jim, find browse
mode more of a blessing than a cursor.
The current functionality and flexibilities that browse mode allows makes
some of the inconveniences more than bearable.
Yes, you do occasionally loose info due to having to activate and
deactivate modes, but it also can save you from making errors.
Something better may indded come along; but I am in no rush to see that just
for its own sake.
Just as obedience to the Lord is an indication of our love for him, so is it
also a proof of ourfear of God.
Jerry Bridges
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