Since this was posted by a GW Micro staffperson, I will assume answering the question of "what if" is relevant to the list. The answer is that with JAWS, you (a) don't get put into forms mode (out of browse mode) with quick navigation keys, and (b) are notified with an audio cue at such times as forms mode is turned off. I am a JAWS user, and while I prefer to disable auto-forms mode, I'm glad the option is there for those who want it.
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:13:45 -0400, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> said: > One negative side effect of automatic browse mode is that what if you > don't realize you are out of Browse mode because it got turned off on > you without you realizing it. So here you are, pressing h over and over > to move to the next heading, or c over and over to move to the next > control and all you are doing is typing a bunch of h's and c's because > you didn't realize that Browse mode was off. > > Just something to think about for now since version 6.1 and 7.01 do it > this way. > > Sandra Fouts wrote the following on 4/28/2009 12:42 PM: > > I guess to each his own. My final note on this You do commands, you > > constantly doing this and that. I like the automatic idea. More on this > > some other time. Got to get back to work. Been a crazy morning. At > > least browse mode has behaved, so far, today. > > > > > > Sandra Fouts > > Phone Counselor > > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > > Little Rock, AR > > 501-371-2303 > > Fax 501-682-8118 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:30 AM > > To: Sandra Fouts > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Browse mode question > > > > Will this is a good idea in theory. However I have observed in practice > > that does not work all that well. Perhaps the best thing to do as I said > > previously. Is to have commands that relate specifically to the buffer > > that do not interfere with the actual browser behavior. > > Kind of like the commands we have that relate to the mouse cursor or the > > insertion pointer. So for example you can press capslock+h to move to the > > next heading or shift capslock+H. to move to the previous heading, while > > pressing the letter H. will do just that in the browser press the letter H. > > So this way there is no confusion as to whether the browse mode is on or > > off, and there is nothing to toggle on or off. This would also mean that > > you actually have to press caps lock and arrow keys to move from line to > > line character by character, word by word, but I do not think this would be > > a major inconvenience insert arrow keys could be used to navigate from, > > table row to row cell to cell Having this type of dialogue now is very > > important, because our feedback will probably give GW micro some idea how > > the remapped browse mode should work -----Original Message----- > > From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:16 AM > > To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.' > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Browse mode question > > > > Yes. I guess I wish it would be automatic and consistant. So I wouldn't > > need to do anything to it. > > > > > > Sandra Fouts > > Phone Counselor > > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > > Little Rock, AR > > 501-371-2303 > > Fax 501-682-8118 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:53 AM > > To: Sandra Fouts > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Browse mode question > > > > I don't think we are disagreeing here. I think it comes down to you want > > brows mode but you want it to turn off and then back on when you need it to > > without you having to think about it. I myself would rather see brows mode > > have its own set of commands so it does not in any way interferer or change > > the way the browser works. It would be like controlling the mouse. I > > would also like to see this extend to office programs as well. So we could > > have commands to move to heading forms etc without having to toggle a mode > > or only having the list feature. Another reason why we really need more > > keyboard modifiers like caps lock scrolled lock and the efercheation > > between left and right control alt keys and in insert keys. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:29 AM > > To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.' > > Subject: RE: Browse mode question > > > > Jim, let's agree to disagree. I just want to worik. > > > > > > Sandra Fouts > > Phone Counselor > > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > > Little Rock, AR > > 501-371-2303 > > Fax 501-682-8118 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:09 AM > > To: Sandra Fouts > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Browse mode question > > > > Now what you are talking about has nothing what so ever to do with brows > > mode what you are talking about now has to do with the way pages are > > created. > > Remember with brows mode turned off the browser has control over the tab > > key and reports to window-eyes what the browser thinks needs to be read. > > Here is what you do. Use brows mode to move to the first form control. > > Turn brows mode off enter the text. Turn brows mode back on use brows mode > > to move to the next control turn brows mode off etc. you can even use the > > list controls feature to move to controls while in brows mode. Place > > markers can be used to mark spots of interest on pages etc. while it might > > be nice to have a automatic brows mode off and on feature on controls so > > far when using programs that have that feature it is more problems then it > > is worth. > > Errors. I almost made them on Sunday. Because I need to fill in edit > > boxes but I couldn't read other things on the screen with it being turned > > off. I almost put in wrong information. I'm having lots of problems with > > t here at work but I only have 6.1 so I can't do much about that at this > > time. Just wish they get on with it and fix it! > > > > > > Sandra Fouts > > Phone Counselor > > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > > Little Rock, AR > > 501-371-2303 > > Fax 501-682-8118 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Pietruk [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:24 AM > > To: Jim Grimsby JR. > > Cc: Sandra Fouts; [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Browse mode question > > > > Sandra > > > > While I can appreciate your frustrations at times, I, like Jim, find browse > > mode more of a blessing than a cursor. > > The current functionality and flexibilities that browse mode allows makes > > some of the inconveniences more than bearable. > > Yes, you do occasionally loose info due to having to activate and > > deactivate modes, but it also can save you from making errors. > > Something better may indded come along; but I am in no rush to see that > > just for its own sake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just as obedience to the Lord is an indication of our love for him, so is > > it also a proof of ourfear of God. > > Jerry Bridges > > > > > > > > > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > > only. 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