Oops I forgot. Sorry. Thanks for calling this to my attention.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:42 AM To: Jim Grimsby JR. Subject: Re: The Silence is deafening did you send that to the gw-info list? Because it just shows me that you replied to my email and not the whole thread, unless you blind carbon copied the gw-info email address and I just can't see it. So, i figured I'd let you know in case you wanted to resend it, I would never forward anything like that on your behalf because it's not my place to do so. dave On 10/15/2014 12:43 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote: > Not only are the points maid below valid, but lets consider this. If > window-eyes is under going a major rewrite witch it probably is then I > would exspect it to take some time to get the next version out the door. > Window-eyes and zoom text will probably use shared componets. Such as > video drivers synthesizer drivers gdi hooks keyboard hooks UIa hooks > and other hooks to access APIs all over the place. Scripting will > probably need to be updated some so that you will be able to hook a object for zoom text and > script it as well. Making window-eyes and zoom text more integrated with > one another in other ways. Don't you think a merger between a > company means some merging of the work teams are doing? if your not > after some tech or products that the other company has there is no reason to merge. > Also if window-eyes was second then why would they bother. Clearly > that doesn't make much scence now does it. Clearly they wanted to get > in to a market that they were not in before so they bought gw micro. > Not only that but gw micro just showed they had a grait working > relationship with Microsoft. If Microsoft didn't think that > window-eyes was going to do anything would Microsoft had maid the deal > with gw micro. Um no. it also stands to reason that maybe AI squared > might want to try to make a similar deal. If they do they are not > going to neglet window-eyes because if they do Microsoft will likely > drop the deal no more close relationship and no more deals with them later on. Um think about it guys. > Also everyone knows that next year windows 10 will run on a phone and > will run all software that will run on windows on what ever device you have. > This means they know over there that window-eyes has to work on windows 10. > They know that the market will grow that direction and they know they > have to get it right the first time. > > Do I want a new version of window-eyes. Yes I do. I want it to work > on my touch screen using my venue 8 pro. I want it to do lots of > things. Do I think it has been slow sure do. Am I worried that it > will never come out sure am not. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:24 AM > To: Sky Mundell; 'Vaughan DoddVaughan' > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: The Silence is deafening > > So. Aside from spelling mistakes, speculation, conjecture, rumor, and > mistrust, what other fuel can be added to an unnecessary fire? If I > recall, this conversation or some iteration of it comes up every time > people are expecting a new release of software. Wouldn't it be better > to think that the "silence" with which you are so concerned is due to > the fact that they are actually developing the software and not > wasting their time because they have said that a release is > forthcoming? Is somebody from the company supposed to post a message > multiple times a day assuring people that they are one day closer to > this imminent release which is forthcoming and is in the near future which is ever growing closer? And closer? > In regards to the so-called "old GWMicro," if there are no more > customer passions for Window-Eyes, why are people still posting > questions and receiving answers from tech-support? Tech-support which, > I might add, still answers questions on the weekends? > > In regards to Window-Eyes being second to Zoom Text, wouldn't it be > logical to think that both teams of developers are focusing on their > respective applications? This would be akin to accusing Microsoft of > focusing on making Windows somehow second in line to, say, office. I > seem to recall a statement in the press release regarding the merger > that the people of Window-Eyes were going to function just as they > always have. Personally, I have not seen any sort of lack in > communication; communication which you deem to be "appalling." If it were so, might not this list have ceased to function? > > I rest my case. > Oh, and in case you weren't aware of it, in the time that you have > spent reading this, we have come that much closer to the release of > Window-Eyes nine. > On 10/14/2014 10:22 AM, Sky Mundell wrote: >> Hi. Here are some articals about gwmicro from a former manijer of >> Freedom Scientific, by Chris Hofstader >> http://chrishofstader.com/remembering-gw-micro/ >> another one is screen reader failure,, inivation, >> http://chrishofstader.com/screen-reader-failure-innovation-deteriorat >> i >> on-des >> pair/ >> another one is Job access with bugs? >> http://chrishofstader.com/job-access-with-bugs/ >> >> here is a post from audiogames.net forum, called jaws Versus >> Window-Eyes >> http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=14118 >> I would encourage everyone on the list to take a look of these >> articals, and let us know what you think. >> These are the sources I could find >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vaughan DoddVaughan [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:27 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: The Silence is deafening >> >> Greetings. >> >> Payig customers deserve some dialogue from AI Squared regarding the >> current and future status of Window-eyes. >> >> Serious allegations have been made: most notably that the industry is >> claiming that GW Micro is bankrupt. >> >> As a creditor, due to the fact that I have a SMA, I am entitled to >> request that I am refunded through a court process. How this works >> across international boundaries, and when in fact the amount is very >> small, is beyond my comprehension. >> >> Here is what I think. >> >> GW did not go bankrupt. But: it needed capital injections to >> contyinue the develoment of Window-eyes against seeming >> unsurmountable > odds. >> AI Squared will treat Window-eyes has a side line to Zoomtext, and >> perhaps it would wish that these people who rely on synthetic speech >> and braille would just go away. >> >> Not for the first time I wonder where Mr Wu is - why has he not >> communicated with Window-eyes owners? Why does it seem that senior >> employees are not wishing to respond to the growing speculation that >> Window-eyes is no longer a truly serious contender in the screen reader >> market? Is their muzzling at the very top levels of AI Squared? Why >> is it - that if there is no longer to be a Window-eyes, we weren't >> told so that we are left to feed on our own speculation? >> >> Just so that we try and keep the discussion on a professional and >> civilised >> basis: Ppople are entitled to move out of their business ventures. >> Peopple are entitled to say "I don't want to do this anymore" >> but the customer relationship is with a new company, whose >> communications with us is appalling. >> >> One of the things which AI Squared inherited is GW Micro's customer >> good will. On the evidence to date - that has been trashed: it >> clearly was not part of the buy-out price? >> >> The old GW Micro had a proud reputation for first class customer support. >> This list reflected customer passion for Window-eyes. Services like >> ACB Radio used to enable GW representatives to explain developments >> with Window-eyes. >> >> If users like me are generating damage on this list - imagine what is >> happening on social networking? And if the damage is widespread - >> what steps are being taken to put out the fire? >> >> >> >> Vaughan. >> >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >> sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >> message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your >> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> >> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You >> can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >> sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message > is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to > [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You >> can > manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your > message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your > message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You > can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
