Hi Sam: It is an interesting thought, but we won't know what happens until it happens, will we? Kevin Huber
On 10/27/14, Sam Bushman <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting articles. > Since GW now works with MS office and has the software basically free maybe > the plan is to have WE become the new narrator. > Just a thought. > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Huber [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:04 AM > To: Sky Mundell > Cc: Vaughan DoddVaughan; [email protected] > Subject: Re: The Silence is deafening > > Hi Sky: > : > OK. I have read all the articles that you referred to in your post, > and I have, from time to time read Chris's blogs. > First, Chris, from what I understand was an engineer in the Tech > department of Freedom Scientific and not a manager. > I also believe that, although he is a knowlegable person about the > inner workings of screen readers because of his programming experience > and his work with Freedom Scientific, some of his statements are, in > my opinion, somewhat questionable. > The statement about GW Micro making its product work with JAVA because > it was forced to by the market, may have a ring of truth to it, but I > also am convinced that it really does try to make sure that a new > feature is "rock solid" before it unleashes it onto the marketplace. > In fact, a number of years ago I was trying to get a Java-based > program to work with JAWS. I had to call Freedom Scientific to find > out how to download and run the JAVA Access Bridge and make it work > with JAWS. In the course of explaining it to me he said that 9 out of > 10 JAVA Applications would not work with it, or something to that > effect. We also know that the next version of Window-eyes is in > private Beta, which means that we are not going to have to wait 10 > years for it, or whatever he stated. > Remember that GW Micro also came out with remote access through Citrix > and through the Microsoft Windows Desktop before Freedom Scientific > did, and I remember a blog article by someone from Freedom Scientific > in which the bloger berated the fact that GW had dared to include a > feature in Window-eyes that would, in his opinion, compromise a > computer's security. I have personally used the Windows remote > Desktop feature to access my computer at work for over 10 years, and > it has saved my life and saved my job many times and it has not > compromised my computer's security nor the security of our network at > the office. > O, and, by the way, JAWS now includes that feature which Window-eyes > pioneered back in around 2004. > > I guess the moral of the story is that everybody has their favourite > screen readers and everybody has their least favourite ones, and we > will all come to the defense of the screen readers we like and find > all the problems with the screen readers that we don't like. > > I will admit that JAWS is a quality product. I have used it and I have > trained on it, and I know that a lot of people like it, which is not a > bad thing. Whether its popularity is due to its superiority over any > other product that is out on the market is questionable to say the > least. We all know that there are many factors which determine a > product's popularity versus its competition, but I won't go into that. > > As for those who would try to read so much into the fact that we > haven't heard anything about Window-eyes version 9, I have to say, as > politely as I can, get a grip. There's no secret conspiracy her, or > impending doom. > Kevin Huber > > To be > > On 10/14/14, Sky Mundell <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi. Here are some articals about gwmicro from a former manijer of Freedom >> Scientific, by Chris Hofstader >> http://chrishofstader.com/remembering-gw-micro/ >> another one is screen reader failure,, inivation, >> http://chrishofstader.com/screen-reader-failure-innovation-deterioration-des >> pair/ >> another one is Job access with bugs? >> http://chrishofstader.com/job-access-with-bugs/ >> >> here is a post from audiogames.net forum, called jaws Versus Window-Eyes >> http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=14118 >> I would encourage everyone on the list to take a look of these articals, >> and >> let us know what you think. >> These are the sources I could find >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vaughan DoddVaughan [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:27 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: The Silence is deafening >> >> Greetings. >> >> Payig customers deserve some dialogue from AI Squared regarding the >> current >> and future status of Window-eyes. >> >> Serious allegations have been made: most notably that the industry is >> claiming that GW Micro is bankrupt. >> >> As a creditor, due to the fact that I have a SMA, I am entitled to >> request >> that I am refunded through a court process. How this works across >> international boundaries, and when in fact the amount is very small, is >> beyond my comprehension. >> >> Here is what I think. >> >> GW did not go bankrupt. But: it needed capital injections to contyinue >> the >> develoment of Window-eyes against seeming unsurmountable odds. >> >> AI Squared will treat Window-eyes has a side line to Zoomtext, and >> perhaps >> it would wish that these people who rely on synthetic speech and braille >> would just go away. >> >> Not for the first time I wonder where Mr Wu is - why has he not >> communicated >> with Window-eyes owners? Why does it seem that senior employees are not >> wishing to respond to the growing speculation that Window-eyes is no >> longer >> a truly serious contender in the screen reader >> market? Is their muzzling at the very top levels of AI Squared? Why >> is it - that if there is no longer to be a Window-eyes, we weren't told >> so >> that we are left to feed on our own speculation? >> >> Just so that we try and keep the discussion on a professional and >> civilised >> basis: Ppople are entitled to move out of their business ventures. >> Peopple >> are entitled to say "I don't want to do this anymore" >> but the customer relationship is with a new company, whose communications >> with us is appalling. >> >> One of the things which AI Squared inherited is GW Micro's customer good >> will. On the evidence to date - that has been trashed: it clearly was >> not >> part of the buy-out price? >> >> The old GW Micro had a proud reputation for first class customer support. >> This list reflected customer passion for Window-eyes. Services like ACB >> Radio used to enable GW representatives to explain developments with >> Window-eyes. >> >> If users like me are generating damage on this list - imagine what is >> happening on social networking? And if the damage is widespread - what >> steps are being taken to put out the fire? >> >> >> >> Vaughan. >> >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is >> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to >> [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> >> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can >> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is >> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to >> [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> >> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can >> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >> >> > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is > related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to > [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can > manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. 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