Raul,
I've tried the nfb newsline papers on other players and they don't seem
to read the actual article titles (headlines" either. Not sure if this
is paper-specific, but it does happen with the San Francisco Chronicle.
And, you're sure right about the non-standard implementation of daisy
with the different players.
Daisy is a great concept, but practical application of the so-called
standard has a long way to go.
Don
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [GWN] can the sense notetakers download and open newspapers
and magazines from NFB newsline with no problems?
Part of the problem with daisy in general is that there does not seem
to be a standard upon to base players on. If you look around at
different software which plays daisy, you will find that it's as if
each one does it in their own way. While daisy might be fine and
dandy, it's far from being standard.
Now as far as the daisy formatted newsline papers, about the only
annoyance I've seen and this is marked down to look into for the
future, is the fact that when you go to each new news article, you
don't hear it's titl unless you do it via the space-2 or space-5
command. When you do it this way, you hear it in the regular Voice
Sense voice instead of the DAISY voice which is controlled separately.
other than that all you have to do is press space-2-3 or space-5-6 to
choose the heading level to move by, heading 2 for each major section
of the paper, sports, news, metro, life, etc. and then heading 3 for
each article. Once you choose the heading level with those keys, you
choose each article to move to or rather each heading by pressing
dot-2 or dot-5 to move backward or forward.
So what I do is press space-5-6 until it says heading 3. Then I press
dot-5 to move forward amongst the heading 3 which are the articles. I
personally feel the keys should be changed to be similar to the media
player, meaning dot-2 and dot-5 to choose the heading to move by and
even choose the index to move by meaning , heading 1, heading 2,
heading 3, phrase, page, etc, then dot-1 and dot-4 to make the actual
move. If HIMS likes this approach, it will make it more uniform and
easier to explain.
Many thanks.
don bishop said the following on 11/18/2008 5:43 PM:
Hi Sarah,
I've been getting the nfb newsline via email for around a year now.
Daisy is a great format for navigating through something such as a
newspaper, and I've been extremely disapointed at the performance of
the daisy player in my Voicesense. Personally, I find it almost
impossible to navigate from one item to the next or from one section
of the paper to the next.
The daisy player is the one area of the vs which really needs serious
work sooner rather than later.
The daisy format has a lot of advantages, but it really seems to lack
in player support.
I don't even bother with daisy on the voicesense, but rather use the
stream. What's unfortunate is that I also have a syncbraille and
really would prefer reading the nfb papers in braille as opposed to
listening to a synthesized voice.
So, I'd say your best bet for now is to listen to the newspapers and
magazines using your vr stream and let's hope the sense notetakers
have a usable player in the very near future.
Sorry to be so negative about this, as it really is the only area of
the sense notetakers with which I actually find fault.
Don
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: [GWN] can the sense notetakers download and open newspapers
and magazines from NFB newsline with no problems?
Hi Raul and List:
The other day I registered to join the free newspaper and magazine
service from NFB called NFB Newsline. You can read local and
national newspapers, and some magazines via your touch tone phone.
They also provide a service that they can e-mail the newspapers and
magazines that you want to read to your e-mail in Daisy format as
well. When I was signing up for the newspaper delivery to my
e-mail, I had difficulty registering for it online. So I contacted
a customer service person at NFB Newsline. He asked me where I'd
primarly read the newspapers. I said on my notetaker the Braille
Sense, my Victor reader stream, and my desk top PC. The customer
service person contacted me back and said "we heard that the
newspapers don't download well and work well on the Braille Sense
notetakers." Does anyone know if this is true or not? Has anyone
tried reading newspapers from Nfb Newsline on their Sense
notetakers? If so, did they download, open well, and read well in
the Daisy player? When I first received my Braille Sense I tried to
download and open Bookshare books in Daisy format in the Daisy
player of the Braille Sense. It didn't work well at all. So I
learned just to download and open the BRF files when I download,
open, and unpack books from Bookshare. I have upgraded my Braille
Sense to version 5.0, but I haven't updated to the latest version,
because I don't want to mess with the Bata form. I want to wait for
the stable permanent latest version, and that might be ready to
download by now. Right now I have a loaner Braille Sense, because
mine is being repaired because some of the pins got bent in the
wireless card slot. So until it returns repaired to me, I don't
want to download a lot of things on to the loaner Braille Sense.
Thanks for putting up with my long-winded explanation and questions.
I look forward into hearing people's responses to my question.
Sarah
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