If this change is made, and I like the suggesttion will it be a software or hardware upgrade? Making things uniform makes total sense to me.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Date: 2008/11/21 14:18:32 Subject: Re: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES FROM NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS? > > > Part of the problem with daisy in general is that there does not seem to > be a standard upon to base players on. If you look around at different > software which plays daisy, you will find that it's as if each one does > it in their own way. While daisy might be fine and dandy, it's far from > being standard. > > Now as far as the daisy formatted newsline papers, about the only > annoyance I've seen and this is marked down to look into for the future, > is the fact that when you go to each new news article, you don't hear > it's titl unless you do it via the space-2 or space-5 command. When you > do it this way, you hear it in the regular Voice Sense voice instead of > the DAISY VOICE WHICH IS CONTROLLED SEPARATELY. OTHER THAN THAT ALL YOU > have to do is press space-2-3 or space-5-6 to choose the heading level > to move by, heading 2 for each major section of the paper, sports, news, > metro, life, etc. and then heading 3 for each article. Once you choose > the heading level with those keys, you choose each article to move to or > rather each heading by pressing dot-2 or dot-5 to move backward or forward. > > So what I do is press space-5-6 until it says heading 3. Then I press > dot-5 to move forward amongst the heading 3 which are the articles. I > personally feel the keys should be changed to be similar to the media > player, meaning dot-2 and dot-5 to choose the heading to move by and > even choose the index to move by meaning , heading 1, heading 2, > heading 3, phrase, page, etc, then dot-1 and dot-4 to make the actual > move. If HIMS LIKES THIS APPROACH, IT WILL MAKE IT MORE UNIFORM AND > easier to explain. > > Many thanks. > > don bishop said the following on 11/18/2008 5:43 PM: > > Hi Sarah, > > > > I've been getting the nfb newsline via email for around a year now. > > > > Daisy is a great format for navigating through something such as a > > newspaper, and I've been extremely disapointed at the performance of the > > daisy player in my Voicesense. Personally, I find it almost impossible > > to navigate from one item to the next or from one section of the paper > > to the next. > > > > The daisy player is the one area of the vs which really needs serious > > work sooner rather than later. > > > > The daisy format has a lot of advantages, but it really seems to lack in > > player support. > > > > I don't even bother with daisy on the voicesense, but rather use the > > stream. What's unfortunate is that I also have a syncbraille and really > > would prefer reading the nfb papers in braille as opposed to listening > > to a synthesized voice. > > > > So, I'd say your best bet for now is to listen to the newspapers and > > magazines using your vr stream and let's hope the sense notetakers have > > a usable player in the very near future. > > > > Sorry to be so negative about this, as it really is the only area of the > > sense notetakers with which I actually find fault. > > > > Don > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:51 PM > > Subject: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS AND > > magazines from NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS? > > > > > >ar Hi Raul and List: > >ar > >ar The other day I registered to join the free newspaper and magazine > >ar service from NFB CALLED NFB Newsline. You can read local and national > >ar newspapers, and some magazines via your touch tone phone. They also > >ar provide a service that they can e-mail the newspapers and magazines > >ar that you want to read to your e-mail in Daisy format as well. When I > >ar was signing up for the newspaper delivery to my e-mail, I had > >ar difficulty registering for it online. So I contacted a customer > >ar service person at NFB Newsline. He asked me where I'd primarly read > >ar the newspapers. I said on my notetaker the Braille Sense, my Victor > >ar reader stream, and my desk top PC. The customer service person > >ar contacted me back and said "we heard that the newspapers don't > >ar download well and work well on the Braille Sense notetakers." Does > >ar anyone know if this is true or not? Has anyone tried reading > >ar newspapers from Nfb Newsline on their Sense notetakers? If so, did > >ar they download, open well, and read well in the Daisy player? When I > >ar first received my Braille Sense I tried to download and open Bookshare > >ar books in Daisy format in the Daisy player of the Braille Sense. It > >ar didn't work well at all. So I learned just to download and open the > >ar BRF FILES WHEN I download, open, and unpack books from Bookshare. I > >ar have upgraded my Braille Sense to version 5.0, but I haven't updated > >ar to the latest version, because I don't want to mess with the Bata > >ar form. I want to wait for the stable permanent latest version, and > >ar that might be ready to download by now. Right now I have a loaner > >ar Braille Sense, because mine is being repaired because some of the pins > >ar got bent in the wireless card slot. So until it returns repaired to > >ar me, I don't want to download a lot of things on to the loaner Braille > >ar Sense. > >ar > >ar Thanks for putting up with my long-winded explanation and questions. I > >ar look forward into hearing people's responses to my question. > >ar > >ar Sarah > >ar > >ar > >ar __________ NOD32 3623 (20081118) Information __________ > >ar > >ar This message was checked by NOD32 ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM. > >ar http://www.eset.com > >ar > >ar > > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos -- GW Micro Technical Support > Voice: 260-489-3671 -- Fax: 260-489-2608 > WEB: HTTP://WWW.GWMICRO.COM > celeste and dea'ler have an awesome day_
