And I think they would be good changes and I was hoping they'd be software.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Date: 2008/11/24 13:06:29 Subject: Re: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES FROM NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS? > > > The changes I'd like to see happen would be software changes. > > Many thanks. > > > celeste said the following on 11/21/2008 6:04 PM: > > If this change is made, and I like the suggesttion will it be a software or > > hardware upgrade? Making things uniform makes total sense to me. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Date: 2008/11/21 14:18:32 > > Subject: Re: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS > > AND MAGAZINES FROM NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS? > > > >ar > >ar Part of the problem with daisy in general is that there does not seem to > >ar be a standard upon to base players on. If you look around at different > >ar software which plays daisy, you will find that it's as if each one does > >ar it in their own way. While daisy might be fine and dandy, it's far from > >ar being standard. > >ar > >ar Now as far as the daisy formatted newsline papers, about the only > >ar annoyance I've seen and this is marked down to look into for the future, > >ar is the fact that when you go to each new news article, you don't hear > >ar it's titl unless you do it via the space-2 or space-5 command. When you > >ar do it this way, you hear it in the regular Voice Sense voice instead of > >ar the DAISY VOICE WHICH IS CONTROLLED SEPARATELY. OTHER THAN THAT ALL YOU > >ar have to do is press space-2-3 or space-5-6 to choose the heading level > >ar to move by, heading 2 for each major section of the paper, sports, news, > >ar metro, life, etc. and then heading 3 for each article. Once you choose > >ar the heading level with those keys, you choose each article to move to or > >ar rather each heading by pressing dot-2 or dot-5 to move backward or > >forward. > >ar > >ar So what I do is press space-5-6 until it says heading 3. Then I press > >ar dot-5 to move forward amongst the heading 3 which are the articles. I > >ar personally feel the keys should be changed to be similar to the media > >ar player, meaning dot-2 and dot-5 to choose the heading to move by and > >ar even choose the index to move by meaning , heading 1, heading 2, > >ar heading 3, phrase, page, etc, then dot-1 and dot-4 to make the actual > >ar move. If HIMS LIKES THIS APPROACH, IT WILL MAKE IT MORE UNIFORM AND > >ar easier to explain. > >ar > >ar Many thanks. > >ar > >ar don bishop said the following on 11/18/2008 5:43 PM: > >>> Hi Sarah, > >>> > >>> I've been getting the nfb newsline via email for around a year now. > >>> > >>> Daisy is a great format for navigating through something such as a > >>> newspaper, and I've been extremely disapointed at the performance of the > >>> daisy player in my Voicesense. Personally, I find it almost impossible > >>> to navigate from one item to the next or from one section of the paper > >>> to the next. > >>> > >>> The daisy player is the one area of the vs which really needs serious > >>> work sooner rather than later. > >>> > >>> The daisy format has a lot of advantages, but it really seems to lack in > >>> player support. > >>> > >>> I don't even bother with daisy on the voicesense, but rather use the > >>> stream. What's unfortunate is that I also have a syncbraille and really > >>> would prefer reading the nfb papers in braille as opposed to listening > >>> to a synthesized voice. > >>> > >>> So, I'd say your best bet for now is to listen to the newspapers and > >>> magazines using your vr stream and let's hope the sense notetakers have > >>> a usable player in the very near future. > >>> > >>> Sorry to be so negative about this, as it really is the only area of the > >>> sense notetakers with which I actually find fault. > >>> > >>> Don > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:51 PM > >>> Subject: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS AND > >>> magazines from NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS? > >>> > >>> > >>> ar Hi Raul and List: > >>> ar > >>> ar The other day I registered to join the free newspaper and magazine > >>> ar service from NFB CALLED NFB Newsline. You can read local and national > >>> ar newspapers, and some magazines via your touch tone phone. They also > >>> ar provide a service that they can e-mail the newspapers and magazines > >>> ar that you want to read to your e-mail in Daisy format as well. When I > >>> ar was signing up for the newspaper delivery to my e-mail, I had > >>> ar difficulty registering for it online. So I contacted a customer > >>> ar service person at NFB Newsline. He asked me where I'd primarly read > >>> ar the newspapers. I said on my notetaker the Braille Sense, my Victor > >>> ar reader stream, and my desk top PC. The customer service person > >>> ar contacted me back and said "we heard that the newspapers don't > >>> ar download well and work well on the Braille Sense notetakers." Does > >>> ar anyone know if this is true or not? Has anyone tried reading > >>> ar newspapers from Nfb Newsline on their Sense notetakers? If so, did > >>> ar they download, open well, and read well in the Daisy player? When I > >>> ar first received my Braille Sense I tried to download and open Bookshare > >>> ar books in Daisy format in the Daisy player of the Braille Sense. It > >>> ar didn't work well at all. So I learned just to download and open the > >>> ar BRF FILES WHEN I download, open, and unpack books from Bookshare. I > >>> ar have upgraded my Braille Sense to version 5.0, but I haven't updated > >>> ar to the latest version, because I don't want to mess with the Bata > >>> ar form. I want to wait for the stable permanent latest version, and > >>> ar that might be ready to download by now. Right now I have a loaner > >>> ar Braille Sense, because mine is being repaired because some of the pins > >>> ar got bent in the wireless card slot. So until it returns repaired to > >>> ar me, I don't want to download a lot of things on to the loaner Braille > >>> ar Sense. > >>> ar > >>> ar Thanks for putting up with my long-winded explanation and questions. I > >>> ar look forward into hearing people's responses to my question. > >>> ar > >>> ar Sarah > >>> ar > >>> ar > >>> ar __________ NOD32 3623 (20081118) Information __________ > >>> ar > >>> ar This message was checked by NOD32 ANTIVIRUS SYSTEM. > >>> ar http://www.eset.com > >>> ar > >>> ar > >ar > >ar -- > >ar Raul A. Gallegos -- GW Micro Technical Support > >ar Voice: 260-489-3671 -- Fax: 260-489-2608 > >ar WEB: HTTP://WWW.GWMICRO.COM > >ar > > > > celeste and dea'ler > > have an awesome day_ > > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos -- GW Micro Technical Support > Voice: 260-489-3671 -- Fax: 260-489-2608 > WEB: HTTP://WWW.GWMICRO.COM > celeste and dea'ler have an awesome day_
