The changes I'd like to see happen would be software changes.
Many thanks.
celeste said the following on 11/21/2008 6:04 PM:
If this change is made, and I like the suggesttion will it be a software or hardware upgrade? Making things uniform makes total sense to me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 2008/11/21 14:18:32
Subject: Re: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS AND
MAGAZINES FROM NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS?
Part of the problem with daisy in general is that there does not seem to
be a standard upon to base players on. If you look around at different
software which plays daisy, you will find that it's as if each one does
it in their own way. While daisy might be fine and dandy, it's far from
being standard.
Now as far as the daisy formatted newsline papers, about the only
annoyance I've seen and this is marked down to look into for the future,
is the fact that when you go to each new news article, you don't hear
it's titl unless you do it via the space-2 or space-5 command. When you
do it this way, you hear it in the regular Voice Sense voice instead of
the DAISY VOICE WHICH IS CONTROLLED SEPARATELY. OTHER THAN THAT ALL YOU
have to do is press space-2-3 or space-5-6 to choose the heading level
to move by, heading 2 for each major section of the paper, sports, news,
metro, life, etc. and then heading 3 for each article. Once you choose
the heading level with those keys, you choose each article to move to or
rather each heading by pressing dot-2 or dot-5 to move backward or forward.
So what I do is press space-5-6 until it says heading 3. Then I press
dot-5 to move forward amongst the heading 3 which are the articles. I
personally feel the keys should be changed to be similar to the media
player, meaning dot-2 and dot-5 to choose the heading to move by and
even choose the index to move by meaning , heading 1, heading 2,
heading 3, phrase, page, etc, then dot-1 and dot-4 to make the actual
move. If HIMS LIKES THIS APPROACH, IT WILL MAKE IT MORE UNIFORM AND
easier to explain.
Many thanks.
don bishop said the following on 11/18/2008 5:43 PM:
Hi Sarah,
I've been getting the nfb newsline via email for around a year now.
Daisy is a great format for navigating through something such as a
newspaper, and I've been extremely disapointed at the performance of the
daisy player in my Voicesense. Personally, I find it almost impossible
to navigate from one item to the next or from one section of the paper
to the next.
The daisy player is the one area of the vs which really needs serious
work sooner rather than later.
The daisy format has a lot of advantages, but it really seems to lack in
player support.
I don't even bother with daisy on the voicesense, but rather use the
stream. What's unfortunate is that I also have a syncbraille and really
would prefer reading the nfb papers in braille as opposed to listening
to a synthesized voice.
So, I'd say your best bet for now is to listen to the newspapers and
magazines using your vr stream and let's hope the sense notetakers have
a usable player in the very near future.
Sorry to be so negative about this, as it really is the only area of the
sense notetakers with which I actually find fault.
Don
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: [GWN] CAN THE SENSE NOTETAKERS DOWNLOAD AND OPEN NEWSPAPERS AND
magazines from NFB NEWSLINE WITH NO PROBLEMS?
ar Hi Raul and List:
ar
ar The other day I registered to join the free newspaper and magazine
ar service from NFB CALLED NFB Newsline. You can read local and national
ar newspapers, and some magazines via your touch tone phone. They also
ar provide a service that they can e-mail the newspapers and magazines
ar that you want to read to your e-mail in Daisy format as well. When I
ar was signing up for the newspaper delivery to my e-mail, I had
ar difficulty registering for it online. So I contacted a customer
ar service person at NFB Newsline. He asked me where I'd primarly read
ar the newspapers. I said on my notetaker the Braille Sense, my Victor
ar reader stream, and my desk top PC. The customer service person
ar contacted me back and said "we heard that the newspapers don't
ar download well and work well on the Braille Sense notetakers." Does
ar anyone know if this is true or not? Has anyone tried reading
ar newspapers from Nfb Newsline on their Sense notetakers? If so, did
ar they download, open well, and read well in the Daisy player? When I
ar first received my Braille Sense I tried to download and open Bookshare
ar books in Daisy format in the Daisy player of the Braille Sense. It
ar didn't work well at all. So I learned just to download and open the
ar BRF FILES WHEN I download, open, and unpack books from Bookshare. I
ar have upgraded my Braille Sense to version 5.0, but I haven't updated
ar to the latest version, because I don't want to mess with the Bata
ar form. I want to wait for the stable permanent latest version, and
ar that might be ready to download by now. Right now I have a loaner
ar Braille Sense, because mine is being repaired because some of the pins
ar got bent in the wireless card slot. So until it returns repaired to
ar me, I don't want to download a lot of things on to the loaner Braille
ar Sense.
ar
ar Thanks for putting up with my long-winded explanation and questions. I
ar look forward into hearing people's responses to my question.
ar
ar Sarah
ar
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celeste and dea'ler
have an awesome day_
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