Karli:

The "Loading Page" message comes up every time a page loads.

AS for the repetition, I suspect that it isn't so much a repetition as 
it is that you are on lines that have a link in them somewhere and just 
hitting the arrow keys doesn't always allow you to go past a link. I 
believe there's a way around this but have forgotten the details. In any 
event, if you hit ENTER+G (the two keys simultaneously) it will read the 
entire page. You may find this tiresome in that you'll hear some stuff 
you aren't interested in but it's one solution to the problem.

AS I say, don't worry so much whether your BS Plus is broken; the 
likelihood is that the page is either loading very slowly or the 
firmware is encountering something on a page it doesn't expect.

Remember, in essence, you're working with a PDA, not a PC, and this 
means that you haven't got quite the processor power you do with a PC.

My prescription for your worries is a vodka and tonic! (har)

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karli" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web 
Browser


Hi Don,

Thanks very much for taking the time to try both the google news link I 
used and the backspace p command for me.  I really aprreciate all the 
help you've been providing so far.  Regarding the type of internet 
connection, I am using a cable connection, which to my understanding is 
similar in speed to a DSL one.  With that in mind, and the fact that my 
braille sense froze on both tries of a page that yours did not freeze 
on, do you think that I should be somewhat concerned?  What else can you 
suggest besides just trying that google news link and previous page 
command again?  Just out of curiosity, did you get the "loading page" 
message before the web browser program took you to the previous page? 
If not, have you ever encountered that message before, and in what 
context did it occur?  Also, would you happen to know why my braille 
sense sometimes repeats itself when reading line by line until I press 
space 5 or space 2 to read the next or previous word; this also happened 
while reading an article from the same google news page I've been using.

Cheers
Karli


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: don bishop
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web 
Browser


  Hi Karli,

  Thanks for the exact link, that helps a lot.

  First of all I'm using dsl here so have a reasonably fast connection 
to the internet and I'm connecting the braillesense plus using wireless.

  I went to the link you provided and the page did load.  I followed a 
couple of links and was able to use the backspace p command to go back 
to the previous page and tried it a couple of different times 
successfully.

  The one thing I really noticed about this whole site is how  slowly it 
loads with the braillesense.

  It really is one of the slowest pages for loading I've seen, and the 
same held true with using the backspace p command.

  If you're using a dialup connection, you might want to consider going 
out for dinner and taking in a show while the page loads.  <smile.

  My guess is that it has something to do with the very large number of 
links and such on the page, but that's only a guess.

  Don't be nervous about using the web browser as you can't hurt 
anything.  The worst that might happen is that it can lock up on some 
pages and you'll have to do a reset, but if the browser is all you have 
open, you really won't loose any data.

  Maybe Raul will have some thoughts on this.

  Hope this helps,

  Don


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Karli
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:02 AM
    Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web 
Browser


    Hi Don and Mike,

    Don.  Sorry for not getting back to you earlier.  The address of the 
page I used was http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn
    From there, I clicked on a news story in the top stories portion of 
the page.  After reading the article, I then pressed backspace p to go 
to the previous page, and that's when the unit would freeze up and just 
display "loading page" until I press the reset button.  I am nervous 
about trying to use the web browser program anymore because I don't know 
what other problems will come up.  Thus far, I noticed that pages load 
very slowly, sometimes its tricky to read information because the 
braille sense seems to have problems reading line by line without 
repeating itself, and of course because the unit freezes up with a 
simple command as "go to previous page".
    Mike, thanks for your insite.  I'm sorry you feel that I am 
overreacting because my braille sense has been behaving strangely.  Its 
just that here in Canada, a braille sense plus costs almost $8000, so 
it's only natural for me to want to know whether my unit is deffective 
or the problems I mentioned are common for these types of braille 
notetakers.  Thanks again to both of you for your comments and 
suggestions.  I would truly appreciate any insite you may have on using 
the braille sense's web browser program.

    Cheers
    Karli


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: don bishop
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:14 PM
      Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using 
web Browser


      Karli,

      What link did you use to get to the google news page?

      I tried www.google.com/news and when I clicked on a story the bs 
tried to download a file rather than go directly to a news article.

      Don


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Karli
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:43 PM
        Subject: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web 
Browser


        Hi,

        On my second attempt at the google news web page, my braille 
sense plus again locked up when I pressed backspace p to go back to the 
previous page.  Immediately after I pressed backspace p, the braile 
displayed showed "loading page", and stayed that way until I pressed the 
reset button; nothing else worked including the power button.  Could one 
of you please try that command after clicking on a news story to see if 
the same thing happens.  I am really concerned that my unit is 
deffective; I had the memory stick problem before as well.  Also, is it 
normal for the unit to repeat by voice and braille display parts of 
lines until one reads work by word with the space 2 or space 5 command? 
It just seems to be a pretty tedious way of accessing the internet if it 
is normal for the braille sense to function that way.  Any help with 
regard to using the web browser program would be greatly appreciated.  I 
was really hoping to use my unit for the internet but so far had not had 
a very good experience.

        Karli


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