One other thing Karli, Don't be afraid to use the reset button when your Braille Note locks up. It will not hurt it and since it will be impossible for a company to make a fool-proof and lock-proof product, you will need to do that from time to time. For most things the browser works great.
Cliff From: don bishop [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web Browser Hi Karli, Well, in theory at least, your cable connection should be faster than my dsl. Anyway, sounds like your speed issue isn't a result of a slow connection. Frankly, that google page is about the slowest I've come across with the braillesense. I really doubt if anything is wrong with your sense. What I'd suggest is that you try several different sites and pages. See what the speed is like with those other sites and also check out the backspace p command. If you are on a page and then move to a second page and try to go back, if the first page has changed in the meantime, the goback command may not work. This is more a function of the page than the browser itself. There are supposed to be some standards in web page design, but in the real world everyone seems to do his or her own thing. And, Mike is right. The braillesense isn't a pc and it's browser isn't as full-featured as browsers for the pc. They work just fine in many many situations, but they all seem to have problems with the more complex web pages that are so common these days. But, it really is frustrating when a particular page you're really interested in is one of these problem pages. I do hope your experience with other pagesare more positive. Glad I could be of some small assistance, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Karli <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web Browser Hi Don, Thanks very much for taking the time to try both the google news link I used and the backspace p command for me. I really aprreciate all the help you've been providing so far. Regarding the type of internet connection, I am using a cable connection, which to my understanding is similar in speed to a DSL one. With that in mind, and the fact that my braille sense froze on both tries of a page that yours did not freeze on, do you think that I should be somewhat concerned? What else can you suggest besides just trying that google news link and previous page command again? Just out of curiosity, did you get the "loading page" message before the web browser program took you to the previous page? If not, have you ever encountered that message before, and in what context did it occur? Also, would you happen to know why my braille sense sometimes repeats itself when reading line by line until I press space 5 or space 2 to read the next or previous word; this also happened while reading an article from the same google news page I've been using. Cheers Karli ----- Original Message ----- From: don bishop <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web Browser Hi Karli, Thanks for the exact link, that helps a lot. First of all I'm using dsl here so have a reasonably fast connection to the internet and I'm connecting the braillesense plus using wireless. I went to the link you provided and the page did load. I followed a couple of links and was able to use the backspace p command to go back to the previous page and tried it a couple of different times successfully. The one thing I really noticed about this whole site is how slowly it loads with the braillesense. It really is one of the slowest pages for loading I've seen, and the same held true with using the backspace p command. If you're using a dialup connection, you might want to consider going out for dinner and taking in a show while the page loads. <smile. My guess is that it has something to do with the very large number of links and such on the page, but that's only a guess. Don't be nervous about using the web browser as you can't hurt anything. The worst that might happen is that it can lock up on some pages and you'll have to do a reset, but if the browser is all you have open, you really won't loose any data. Maybe Raul will have some thoughts on this. Hope this helps, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Karli <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web Browser Hi Don and Mike, Don. Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. The address of the page I used was http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en <http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn> &tab=wn >From there, I clicked on a news story in the top stories portion of the page. After reading the article, I then pressed backspace p to go to the previous page, and that's when the unit would freeze up and just display "loading page" until I press the reset button. I am nervous about trying to use the web browser program anymore because I don't know what other problems will come up. Thus far, I noticed that pages load very slowly, sometimes its tricky to read information because the braille sense seems to have problems reading line by line without repeating itself, and of course because the unit freezes up with a simple command as "go to previous page". Mike, thanks for your insite. I'm sorry you feel that I am overreacting because my braille sense has been behaving strangely. Its just that here in Canada, a braille sense plus costs almost $8000, so it's only natural for me to want to know whether my unit is deffective or the problems I mentioned are common for these types of braille notetakers. Thanks again to both of you for your comments and suggestions. I would truly appreciate any insite you may have on using the braille sense's web browser program. Cheers Karli ----- Original Message ----- From: don bishop <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web Browser Karli, What link did you use to get to the google news page? I tried www.google.com/news and when I clicked on a story the bs tried to download a file rather than go directly to a news article. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Karli <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using web Browser Hi, On my second attempt at the google news web page, my braille sense plus again locked up when I pressed backspace p to go back to the previous page. Immediately after I pressed backspace p, the braile displayed showed "loading page", and stayed that way until I pressed the reset button; nothing else worked including the power button. Could one of you please try that command after clicking on a news story to see if the same thing happens. I am really concerned that my unit is deffective; I had the memory stick problem before as well. Also, is it normal for the unit to repeat by voice and braille display parts of lines until one reads work by word with the space 2 or space 5 command? It just seems to be a pretty tedious way of accessing the internet if it is normal for the braille sense to function that way. Any help with regard to using the web browser program would be greatly appreciated. I was really hoping to use my unit for the internet but so far had not had a very good experience. 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