Hi Cliff.
I too have had the situation using the down arrow and getting
stuck! I have a VS with the latest software.
Peter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Fry" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:40:22 -0400
Subject: RE: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using
web Browser
Hi,
There does seem to be a problem with the current firmware, at
least on the
Voice Sense where it seems to get stuck, when using the down
arrow and it
will not go past a line. It is not consistent, and does not
always do it on
the same line. I can go past the problem by using the enter G
and go back
to it and it will not get stuck the second time.
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using
web Browser
Karli:
The "Loading Page" message comes up every time a page loads.
AS for the repetition, I suspect that it isn't so much a
repetition as
it is that you are on lines that have a link in them somewhere
and just
hitting the arrow keys doesn't always allow you to go past a
link. I
believe there's a way around this but have forgotten the details.
In any
event, if you hit ENTER+G (the two keys simultaneously) it will
read the
entire page. You may find this tiresome in that you'll hear some
stuff
you aren't interested in but it's one solution to the problem.
AS I say, don't worry so much whether your BS Plus is broken; the
likelihood is that the page is either loading very slowly or the
firmware is encountering something on a page it doesn't expect.
Remember, in essence, you're working with a PDA, not a PC, and
this
means that you haven't got quite the processor power you do with
a PC.
My prescription for your worries is a vodka and tonic! (har)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karli" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When Using
web
Browser
Hi Don,
Thanks very much for taking the time to try both the google news
link I
used and the backspace p command for me. I really aprreciate all
the
help you've been providing so far. Regarding the type of
internet
connection, I am using a cable connection, which to my
understanding is
similar in speed to a DSL one. With that in mind, and the fact
that my
braille sense froze on both tries of a page that yours did not
freeze
on, do you think that I should be somewhat concerned? What else
can you
suggest besides just trying that google news link and previous
page
command again? Just out of curiosity, did you get the "loading
page"
message before the web browser program took you to the previous
page?
If not, have you ever encountered that message before, and in
what
context did it occur? Also, would you happen to know why my
braille
sense sometimes repeats itself when reading line by line until I
press
space 5 or space 2 to read the next or previous word; this also
happened
while reading an article from the same google news page I've been
using.
Cheers
Karli
----- Original Message -----
From: don bishop
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When
Using web
Browser
Hi Karli,
Thanks for the exact link, that helps a lot.
First of all I'm using dsl here so have a reasonably fast
connection
to the internet and I'm connecting the braillesense plus using
wireless.
I went to the link you provided and the page did load. I
followed a
couple of links and was able to use the backspace p command to go
back
to the previous page and tried it a couple of different times
successfully.
The one thing I really noticed about this whole site is how
slowly it
loads with the braillesense.
It really is one of the slowest pages for loading I've seen,
and the
same held true with using the backspace p command.
If you're using a dialup connection, you might want to consider
going
out for dinner and taking in a show while the page loads.
<smile.
My guess is that it has something to do with the very large
number of
links and such on the page, but that's only a guess.
Don't be nervous about using the web browser as you can't hurt
anything. The worst that might happen is that it can lock up on
some
pages and you'll have to do a reset, but if the browser is all
you have
open, you really won't loose any data.
Maybe Raul will have some thoughts on this.
Hope this helps,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Karli
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When
Using web
Browser
Hi Don and Mike,
Don. Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. The address
of the
page I used was http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn
From there, I clicked on a news story in the top stories
portion of
the page. After reading the article, I then pressed backspace p
to go
to the previous page, and that's when the unit would freeze up
and just
display "loading page" until I press the reset button. I am
nervous
about trying to use the web browser program anymore because I
don't know
what other problems will come up. Thus far, I noticed that pages
load
very slowly, sometimes its tricky to read information because the
braille sense seems to have problems reading line by line without
repeating itself, and of course because the unit freezes up with
a
simple command as "go to previous page".
Mike, thanks for your insite. I'm sorry you feel that I am
overreacting because my braille sense has been behaving
strangely. Its
just that here in Canada, a braille sense plus costs almost
$8000, so
it's only natural for me to want to know whether my unit is
deffective
or the problems I mentioned are common for these types of braille
notetakers. Thanks again to both of you for your comments and
suggestions. I would truly appreciate any insite you may have on
using
the braille sense's web browser program.
Cheers
Karli
----- Original Message -----
From: don bishop
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When
Using
web Browser
Karli,
What link did you use to get to the google news page?
I tried www.google.com/news and when I clicked on a story
the bs
tried to download a file rather than go directly to a news
article.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Karli
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: [GWN] Problem With Previous Page Command When
Using web
Browser
Hi,
On my second attempt at the google news web page, my
braille
sense plus again locked up when I pressed backspace p to go back
to the
previous page. Immediately after I pressed backspace p, the
braile
displayed showed "loading page", and stayed that way until I
pressed the
reset button; nothing else worked including the power button.
Could one
of you please try that command after clicking on a news story to
see if
the same thing happens. I am really concerned that my unit is
deffective; I had the memory stick problem before as well. Also,
is it
normal for the unit to repeat by voice and braille display parts
of
lines until one reads work by word with the space 2 or space 5
command?
It just seems to be a pretty tedious way of accessing the
internet if it
is normal for the braille sense to function that way. Any help
with
regard to using the web browser program would be greatly
appreciated. I
was really hoping to use my unit for the internet but so far had
not had
a very good experience.
Karli
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