Hello Ann. I'm not sure what firmware 5.22 build date 20090525 is, however it was never an official firmware we released. I suspect that if you can upgrade to version 5.5 which has a build date of 20100630, we can go from there.
Many thanks. On 7/5/2010 1:47 AM, Ann Edie wrote: > Hi, > > Stacey has walked me through the reset using the right arrow key on the > front of the device. And it didn't change the result of the "save". I > have been creating test documents directly on the BrailleSense in grade > 2 braille. > > I just checked the information file, and it does seem to indicate that > the software version is 5.22, after which it says "build 20090525." > (Does that mean that the unit was built on May 25, 2009, or that it was > the 525th unit to be built in 2009, or none of the above?) > > I think I do know the difference between computer braille and literary > braille, contracted or uncontracted, and I have been using computer > braille to name my files, very simply, so far, such as t-e-s-t-dots > 4,6-brl or brf, as suggested by members of this list, or without the > file type suffix. > > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:49 PM > Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." > > >> Hi, >> I never heard of firmware 5.22. Sounds like a setting gone wrong... >> The only >> remedy might be a reinitialization - Reset with the NEXT TRACK button >> (the >> right arrow on the front of the unit). >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ann Edie [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >> >> Yes, I typed the letters t e s t, then dots 4-6, then brl or brf. If >> I hit >> ENTER then, I get the message that says "format not supported." If I hit >> "tab", I get the clashing cymbals and the device locks up and I need to >> press the reset button to get any response. >> >> I'm using version 5.22. I think the device was shipped to the school >> district last September or so. The previous TVI took it home to learn >> how >> to operate it, and she never brought it back to school so that the >> student >> could use it, or at least, that is what I have been told. >> >> Best, >> Ann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara J. Wagreich" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Cc: "Barbara J. Wagreich" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >> >> >>> Dear Ann: >>> >>> I have a Braille Sense Plus still running version 5.21 (I haven't >>> updated >>> to the new firmware yet). What version of the firmware do you have on >>> your BSP? There should be a file in the list of files in the file >>> manager >> >>> named bs-information.txt and it will give you the version number of the >>> firmware on y our BSP. let us know. >>> >>> I went into the word processor and typed a line of text. Then I did >>> CTRL-S and it prompted me for the filename. I typed test.brf and it was >>> saved and placed in the My Documents folder. It contained a line of >>> Grade >> >>> 2 Braille. I went back into the word processor and typed a line of >>> computer braille and gave the CTRL-S command and the filename test1.brf >>> and it was saved as such. >>> >>> It is important to use only computer braille when typing the name of a >>> file plus extension, even if you have set VIEW gRADE to Grade 2 >>> Braille in >> >>> t he Options menu. In other words, test.brf is an acceptable filename, >>> but test4brf is not acceptable. >>> >>> I didn't have to u se the F3 for the extension. >>> >>> Have you tried to do it the way I ahve described above? >>> >>> Barb >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2010, Ann Edie wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Don, >>>> >>>> I am using a BrailleSense Plus. I can follow your steps through typing >>>> the name without extension, but when I press "tab" (F3), I get a sound >>>> like clashing cymbals and the device ceases to respond. I reset and >>>> tried again, with the same results. >>>> >>>> Ann >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ann, >>>>> >>>>> Just tried it here to be sure. >>>>> Bring up the save as dialog box with space s. Give it a couple >>>>> seconds >>>>> for the current filename to appear. >>>>> Next if you want a new filename start typing. The old one will >>>>> disappear >>>>> once you start typing. >>>>> Once you have typed the filename, no extension needed, press the tab >>>>> key >>>>> (f3) and you should be in the file type box. The default file type >>>>> will >>>>> be shown. Press space until the file type you want shows or is >>>>> spoken. >>>>> >>>>> Finally press the tab key one more time and you should be on a >>>>> confirm >>>>> button. Press enter there and your document will be saved in the >>>>> format >>>>> you choose. >>>>> >>>>> If this doesn't work as described, try a reset of the braillesense >>>>> and >>>>> then do it again. >>>>> >>>>> This should work with either the voice sense or braille sense. I >>>>> can't >>>>> recall which you said you are using. >>>>> >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/4/2010 2:59 PM, Ann Edie wrote: >>>>> > Well, I get the same result when I just type the file name as >>>>> "test" >>>>> > without any extension. Should I try typing it with "hbl"? >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions. >>>>> > >>>>> > Ann >>>>> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> > To: <[email protected]> >>>>> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:57 PM >>>>> > Subject: RE: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > Hi, >>>>> > > I see what the person is doing: Just because we type a file >>>>> > > extension >>>>> > > does >>>>> > > not mean the operating system will accept it. In order for the >>>>> > > file >>>>> > > manager >>>>> > > to correctly interpret file contents, a correct file type must be >>>>> > > selected >>>>> > > before it can be named or vice versa. Just typing the words >>>>> > > "test.brf" >>>>> > > will >>>>> > > not help the operating system - in a sense, it would be named >>>>> > > "test.brf.hbl" >>>>> > > since HBL (Hansone-braille document) is the default file format. >>>>> > > Remember >>>>> > > how old viruses worked to get our attention: fooling around >>>>> with > > an >>>>> > > extension will not work. >>>>> > > Just a thought. >>>>> > > Cheers, >>>>> > > Joseph P.S. Welcome to the list... >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > > From: Joe Giovanelli [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:54 AM >>>>> > > To: [email protected] >>>>> > > Subject: Re: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save as..." >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Ann, >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Much of the way the BSP works is like Windows. The "save as" >>>>> > > command is >>>>> > > certainly like that. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > After completing a file, it must be named in order to save it. >>>>> > > This >> >>>>> > > is >>>>> > > where the "save as" command comes in. I guess you already know >>>>> how >>>>> > > to >>>>> > > bring >>>>> > > that command up so I'll skip that. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > When you have the command on your display, give it a name, >>>>> > > including its >>>>> > > extension. If you wish the file to be stored in the default >>>>> folder >>>>> > > (My >>>>> > > Documents), just press "enter. The file will be saved. Note that >>>>> > > you do >>>>> > > not use "tab." >>>>> > > >>>>> > > If you wish to use another folder other than the default, >>>>> press > > the >>>>> > > "shift-tab" that's space plus dots 2-3. This puts you in a >>>>> list of >>>>> > > folders >>>>> > > which you can move you with the space plus dot 4 or dot 2. >>>>> When > > you >> >>>>> > > have >>>>> > > selected the desired folder, press "enter." >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Now tab a couple of times. The first tab shows your filename plus >>>>> > > extension. >>>>> > > The next tab shows the file type. The next tab says "confirm." >>>>> > > Press >>>>> > > "enter" here and the file will be saved. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Joe G. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> > > From: "Ann Edie" <[email protected]> >>>>> > > To: unknown <[email protected]> >>>>> > > Date: Sunday, Jul 4, 2010 0:11:20 >>>>> > > Subject: [GWN] New Member with a Question about "Save z..." >>>>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > Hi, All, >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > I have just taken possession of a BrailleSense Plus which was >>>>> > > > purchased by >>>>> > > a school district for the use of a student whom I will be seeing >>>>> > > over the >>>>> > > summer. I need to figure out the basic functions of the device so >>>>> > > that I >>>>> > > can teach the student how to use it in preparation for the next >>>>> > > school >>>>> > > year >>>>> > > when he will be in the 6th grade. I am a BrailleNote user myself, >>>>> > > but >>>>> > > this >>>>> > > is my first experience with the BrailleSense. >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > So far I do like the device, but I am having difficulty with >>>>> the >>>>> > > > "save >>>>> > > z..." feature. I can find the item and get the prompt which >>>>> asks > > me >> >>>>> > > to >>>>> > > name >>>>> > > the file. When I type in the name I want the file to be called, I >>>>> > > can see >>>>> > > those characters on the braille display. If I were using my > >>>>> > desktop >>>>> > > computer with microsoft Word, after typing the file name, I would >>>>> > > tab >>>>> > > to the >>>>> > > next prompt which would ask me for the file format. But what do I >>>>> > > do at >>>>> > > this point on the BrailleSense? >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > I have tried pressing Space-dots 4, 5, which I think is the >>>>> > > > equivalent of >>>>> > > "tab", and I have tried pressing "Enter", but in both cases, the >>>>> > > device >>>>> > > seems to freeze, and doesn't respond to any commands, such as >>>>> > > "Space-Z" or >>>>> > > "Space-every." So I have resorted to the reset button, which of >>>>> > > course >>>>> > > causes the data in the file to be lost. >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > Can anyone help me with the details of how to work through the >>>>> > > > "save >>>>> > > > z..." >>>>> > > routine, or point me to the spot in the manual where this is >>>>> > > explained in >>>>> > > detail? >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > Thank you very much. >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > Best, >>>>> > > > Ann in NY >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> > > >>>>> > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> > > >>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> > > Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: >>>>> > > 07/04/10 >>>>> > > 06:35:00 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > __________ NOD32 5251 (20100704) Information __________ >>>>> > >>>>> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>> > http://www.eset.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >>> >>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>> >>> >> >> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >> >> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2981 - Release Date: 07/04/10 >> 18:35:00 >> >> If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: >> >> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >> >> > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, visit: > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv -- Raul A. 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