At 23:40 20/02/2006, you wrote:
Thank you for the description. I still wonder how the sleeves are
attached. There is no strap showing. Is the pearl necklace in her
bodice or is it attached to the edges of a very translarent partlet?
One description said the beading trim was attached to the under
layer. What under layer? Was it attached to a chemise or smock? I
don't see any of it except for the poofs of white.
I found a pdf of the costume by Nina ????. It has a white chemise
with blackwork on it as suggested undergarments. Is this right? I
don't know. Since she does so much research and garb work, I assume
she knows what she is talking about in this portrait.
Is she wearing earrings or is the trim on her hood?
I found the perfect cloth that is the same color and pattern in the
portrait. That was a big start on the costume. I don't know if i can
find gfabric for the front and undersleeves. I guess I could
embroider it myself. I'd rather not have to do that much work by hand.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Habra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth
My daughter has chosen the portrait of young Princess Elizabeth for her
costume. It is the pink one, Flemish School 1546-1547.
Can anyone tell me what colors the sleeves and the front panel are? They
seem very pink to me. http://www.sapphireandsage.com/necklaces.html
I saw this painting in the National Portrait Gallery London several years
ago and the main dress is reddish orange and the forepart and lower
sleeves are gold velvet cutwork.
I can't tell if it has a round or pointed bodices.
The bodice is pointed and the skirt is attached. The skirt is flat in
front and has cartridge or knife pleats starting at the sides. It would
have a full back skirt and probably a train.
What do you call these
kind of sleeves. Any suggestions of how to make of pattern for the
sleeves?
I don't think the sleeves have a particular name other than maybe "tudor
sleeves". The over sleeve (reddish orange) is a very large bell shape
which was probably a revival of the medieval bell sleeves. They are then
folded back and pinned on the upper arm.
The lower sleeves (gold cutwork) are debated as to how they are made. My
research found that they are a separate sleeve accent that probably ties
to a ribbon on the inside of the bell sleeve. It can be a round-ish
stuffed ball or a finished fancy fabric that folds over the arm and ties
on the bottom.
There is a different tudor portait that shows that there is a corner
showing near the elbow. So it would seem that the sleeves do not extend
all the way to the top of the arm.
I can send you a picture of my lower sleeves and whole tudor outfit if you
want to e-mail me privately.
Hope that helps!
The "cutwork" is actually described by Janet Arnold as "cloth of
gold" and you can see the tiny "purles" close up, like little springs.
You will find patterns for sleeves like this in Hunnisett, "Period
Costume for "Stage and Screen 1500-1800". I believe Ninya Mikhaila
may have sleeves like this too, but her book has not yet been
published as far as I know.The Hunnisett sleeves do work - I've used
the pattern several times, and she gives several variations.
You can see a version of the sleeves here
http://www.suziclarke.co.uk/viewimage.php?image=/henry-Vlll-and-anne-boleyn.jpg
These are pinned very high on the arm as the young lady was using a
bow on the day the photo was taken.
Suzi
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