2009/7/7 Huan "KDE Zealot" Truong <[email protected]>:
> On 7/7/09, Cá Vàng <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't agree, X Server already has its own IM method, while hack it
>> like xvnkb does? (hooking into the server)
>
> Because xvnkb worked and it is working. What is more important for me
> is not how beautiful/powerful/extensible/universal/modern the design
> is, it's how well the implementation works. Try to type a serious
> document with scim and you'll see how messed up the accents are placed
> - at least with my typing practices.
>
> http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/appa.html

Scim + unikey/m17n worked (nearly) perfect for me too.

>> It will cause a lot of
>> problem doing so, I haven't used it but I have heard it has problem
>> with GIMP, CD driver.
>
> Even if the GIMP crap crashes, I don't really care: I don't use the
> GIMP because that thing doesn't work for me. Last time it didn't crash
> but. CD driver -- Sorry if it doesn't work for you, it works for me.

Seeing that it has problem with power management, god knows what kind
of other disaster it could bring by using a hack deep in a kernel land
component?

>> And for your problem with scim/skim, just disable pre-edit,
>> application edit method sharing in FrontEnd global setup.
>
> I couldn't figure that out, and it wasn't my fault: it's scim's
> default. Too little too late. Even so using skim on KDE is still a
> pain. You have to relaunch the program to type Vietnamese if you
> launch skim after you launch the program.

Most people start s[ck]im on start up, you know.

>> Aside from ABI transistion problem, I see there is no real reason not
>> to use scim. (this is why ibus was born).
>
> I don't know what you're talking about but now we have another guy:
> ibus. There you go another half baked solution to mess around with.

Half baked solution? More information please. Or I could say that
almost every software out there are half baked.

>> PS: Its GUI is badly designed too, but that is another story.
>
> I never have to call the menu or the GUI. It works out of the box with
> its default settings -- why the heck do I need a nice interface to
> configure it? I have more important things to worry about, rather than
> spending time messing with the configurations of a Vietnamese typing
> app that is supposed to work.

FYI, scim-unikey worked out-of-the-box for me too. and I am talking
about scim GUI.
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