I support one mailing list as before, because: + I don't agree with two new mailing list, because of next mailing lists: hanoilug-chin...@xxx, hanoilug-lao, hanoilug-cambodia, hanoilug-germany ... + I agree with hanoilug as it is (like JC said) + I agree with one mailing list because someone said that let's the writers aim to the readers. + I agree with one mailing list based on the most. Otherwise, why we can't vote this opinion. + I agree with one mailing list because of open but difference. What is the difference between mailing list hanoilug and other lug ? + There are many way to understand the information on mailing list: translater engines, forein language courses, ... + And the end, this discussion began from the courage of vietnamese in the mailing list. The one who likes vietnamese had learnt vietnamese, the one that need to learn vietnamese will have the vietnamese courses. => I think, the first and biggest objective of hanoilug is encouraging the people in Hanoi (especially the vietnamese in Hanoi) to work more closely with FOSS.
Thank you. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Patrick M. E. <[email protected]> wrote: > > [UTF-8] Jean Christophe André writes: > > > Jean Christophe André écrivait : > >> Now the lists *usage* should change accordingly, as follow: > >> - the original <[email protected]> mailing-list won't change > >> (we won't touch any subscription) except that it will now become a > >> national language (= Vietnamese) only mailing-list; > >> - <[email protected]> is an English language only > >> mailing-list; > >> - <[email protected]> is an French language only > >> mailing-list; > >> - cross-posting (eg: to announce some event) to multiple language > >> dedicated mailing-lists is allowed as long as the message contains *all* > >> the corresponding translations; > >> - any message received on one list in the “wrongâ€� language > (eg: in > >> English or French on the old “hanoilugâ€� list) shall be > *politely* > >> redirected to the right mailing-list, through a *private* answer to the > >> original sender (please, please, please, do not reply on the list!). > > Sounds good, like that the Egnlish-speaking people can have > their discussions on the english mailing list, but we need to > make sure that when an important discussion emerges in the > english list, that it is transferred to the main list. > > > Since multiple people have already expressed their concern about changing > > this mailing-list current rules (which I mostly disagree, but also > > respect) let's start by *not changing anything about this mailing-list* > > and see how the others two will evolve. > > > > So the new rules would be as follow: > > - <[email protected]> doesn't change in any way, let's just > > continue using it the same way as before => there is no "-vietnamese" on > > it, so it stays “unlocalizedâ€�; > > - <[email protected]> is for English messages only; > > - <[email protected]> is for French messages only; > > - cross-posting are allowed as long as they respects these conditions; > > - any message received on one list in the “wrongâ€� language > (eg: in > > Vietnamese on the “hanoilug-englishâ€� or > “hanoilug-frenchâ€� > > mailing-lists) shall be *politely* redirected to the right mailing-list, > > through a *private* answer to the original sender (please, please, > please, > > do not reply on the list!). > > > > > > There is 2 other ideas we would like to discuss: > > > > - N.H.Quang suggested that we could let all posts to "hanoilug-english" > be > > additionnaly re-sent (automatically) to "hanoilug" so that the > discussions > > in English will still be followed by all "hanoilug" subscribers; > > technically it would as simple as just subscribing the "hanoilug" > > mailing-list to "hanoilug-english"; > > we should think about this, because we want to both show > everyone the important things the English speakers come up with > but we don't want to bore everyone with off-topic duscussions :) > > > - I also suggest the creation of a low traffic, broadcast only (no > > discussion, no reply, posts moderated), "hanoilug-announce" mailing-list, > > exclusively in English (with accompagning translations allowed, of > > course), which would be very useful for people who want to keep informed > > about HanoiLUG activities (and only that, no advertisement for other > > unrelated activities on this list) without participating all the > > discussions around them. > > if we did this then we wouldn't need to subscribe > hanoilug-english to hanoilug i think > > > > > Again, there is no presure in these changes. We are only trying to make > it > > easier and more open to people who don't want to get “spammedâ€� > by > > messages in some language they can't read (or don't have the time for > it). > > yeah we should try a few thing to see what works best, but not > let it get too complicated > > > Cheers, J.C. > > cheers, patrick > > > -- > > Jean Christophe "プãƒã‚°ãƒ•" ANDRÉ — ✧ — Responsable > > technique régional > > Bureau Asie–Pacifique (BAP) — ✧ — > > http://www.asie-pacifique.auf.org/ > > Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) — ✧ — > > http://www.auf.org/ > > Adresse postale : AUF, 21 Lê Thánh Tông, T.T. Hoà n Kiếm, Hà Ná»™i, > > Việt Nam > > Tél. : +84 4 9331108 ✦ Fax : +84 4 8247383 ✦ Cellul. : +84 91 > > 3248747 > > ⎧ Note personnelle: merci d'éviter de m'envoyer des fichiers > PowerPoint > > ⎫ > > ⎩ ou Word, cf > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html > > ⎠> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. > Visit now http://www.nawelny.com > _______________________________________________ > POST RULES : http://wiki.hanoilug.org/hanoilug:mailing_list_guidelines > _______________________________________________ > HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/ >
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