yep, it's too dump to split into various mailing list.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Ng T <[email protected]> wrote: > I support one mailing list as before, because: > > + I don't agree with two new mailing list, because of next mailing lists: > hanoilug-chin...@xxx, hanoilug-lao, hanoilug-cambodia, hanoilug-germany ... > + I agree with hanoilug as it is (like JC said) > + I agree with one mailing list because someone said that let's the writers > aim to the readers. > + I agree with one mailing list based on the most. Otherwise, why we can't > vote this opinion. > + I agree with one mailing list because of open but difference. What is the > difference between mailing list hanoilug and other lug ? > + There are many way to understand the information on mailing list: > translater engines, forein language courses, ... > + And the end, this discussion began from the courage of vietnamese in the > mailing list. The one who likes vietnamese had learnt vietnamese, the one > that need to learn vietnamese will have the vietnamese courses. > => I think, the first and biggest objective of hanoilug is encouraging the > people in Hanoi (especially the vietnamese in Hanoi) to work more closely > with FOSS. > > Thank you. > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Patrick M. E. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> [UTF-8] Jean Christophe André writes: >> >> > Jean Christophe André écrivait : >> >> Now the lists *usage* should change accordingly, as follow: >> >> - the original <[email protected]> mailing-list won't change >> >> (we won't touch any subscription) except that it will now become a >> >> national language (= Vietnamese) only mailing-list; >> >> - <[email protected]> is an English language only >> >> mailing-list; >> >> - <[email protected]> is an French language only >> >> mailing-list; >> >> - cross-posting (eg: to announce some event) to multiple language >> >> dedicated mailing-lists is allowed as long as the message contains >> >> *all* >> >> the corresponding translations; >> >> - any message received on one list in the “wrongâ€� language >> >> (eg: in >> >> English or French on the old “hanoilugâ€� list) shall be >> >> *politely* >> >> redirected to the right mailing-list, through a *private* answer to the >> >> original sender (please, please, please, do not reply on the list!). >> >> Sounds good, like that the Egnlish-speaking people can have >> their discussions on the english mailing list, but we need to >> make sure that when an important discussion emerges in the >> english list, that it is transferred to the main list. >> >> > Since multiple people have already expressed their concern about >> > changing >> > this mailing-list current rules (which I mostly disagree, but also >> > respect) let's start by *not changing anything about this mailing-list* >> > and see how the others two will evolve. >> > >> > So the new rules would be as follow: >> > - <[email protected]> doesn't change in any way, let's just >> > continue using it the same way as before => there is no "-vietnamese" on >> > it, so it stays “unlocalizedâ€�; >> > - <[email protected]> is for English messages only; >> > - <[email protected]> is for French messages only; >> > - cross-posting are allowed as long as they respects these conditions; >> > - any message received on one list in the “wrongâ€� language >> > (eg: in >> > Vietnamese on the “hanoilug-englishâ€� or >> > “hanoilug-frenchâ€� >> > mailing-lists) shall be *politely* redirected to the right mailing-list, >> > through a *private* answer to the original sender (please, please, >> > please, >> > do not reply on the list!). >> > >> > >> > There is 2 other ideas we would like to discuss: >> > >> > - N.H.Quang suggested that we could let all posts to "hanoilug-english" >> > be >> > additionnaly re-sent (automatically) to "hanoilug" so that the >> > discussions >> > in English will still be followed by all "hanoilug" subscribers; >> > technically it would as simple as just subscribing the "hanoilug" >> > mailing-list to "hanoilug-english"; >> >> we should think about this, because we want to both show >> everyone the important things the English speakers come up with >> but we don't want to bore everyone with off-topic duscussions :) >> >> > - I also suggest the creation of a low traffic, broadcast only (no >> > discussion, no reply, posts moderated), "hanoilug-announce" >> > mailing-list, >> > exclusively in English (with accompagning translations allowed, of >> > course), which would be very useful for people who want to keep informed >> > about HanoiLUG activities (and only that, no advertisement for other >> > unrelated activities on this list) without participating all the >> > discussions around them. >> >> if we did this then we wouldn't need to subscribe >> hanoilug-english to hanoilug i think >> >> > >> > Again, there is no presure in these changes. We are only trying to make >> > it >> > easier and more open to people who don't want to get >> > “spammedâ€� by >> > messages in some language they can't read (or don't have the time for >> > it). >> >> yeah we should try a few thing to see what works best, but not >> let it get too complicated >> >> > Cheers, J.C. >> >> cheers, patrick >> >> > -- >> > Jean Christophe "プãƒã‚°ãƒ•" ANDRÉ — ✧ — Responsable >> > technique régional >> > Bureau Asie–Pacifique (BAP) — ✧ — >> > http://www.asie-pacifique.auf.org/ >> > Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (AuF) — ✧ — >> > http://www.auf.org/ >> > Adresse postale : AUF, 21 Lê Thánh Tông, T.T. 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