A colleague approached me yesterday with a question as to the origin of the 
name Seth.  I opened up the Hertz Pentateuch that I keep at my desk and found 
the origin of the name (Genesis 4:25) for her.  She was amazed that I used a 
Bible that was "translated into Hebrew".  I explained to her that the Jewish 
canon of the Bible was originally written mainly in Hebrew with a bit of 
Aramaic here and there in the Prophets.  The encounter got me to thinking about 
how we represent the language of the Bible in our cataloging standards.  If one 
were to search a catalog with AACR2 entries for my Hertz Pentateuch, one would 
find the following main entry, which would lead one to believe that the Bible 
(or at least in this case the Five Books of Moses) was written in a language 
other than Hebrew:

Bible. O.T. Pentateuch. Hebrew. 1952.

This is due to the following rule in AACR2
25.18A10. Language [cid:[email protected]] 
<http://desktop.loc.gov/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=setdoc&doc_keytype=foliodestination&doc_key=mabiblX30SPACEDOLLARl&hash=X30SPACEDOLLARl>
Add the name of the language of the item after the designation for the Bible or 
part of the Bible.
Bible. English . . .
Bible. N.T. English . . .
Bible. N.T. Revelation. English . . .
If the Old Testament is in Hebrew and the New Testament is in Greek, add 
Hebrew-Greek. Make a see also reference from Bible. O.T. Hebrew . . . and 
Bible. N.T. Greek . . .

We only do this for books of the Bible.  One would never find an entry such as 
follows for a Shakespearean work in the original English (though perhaps that 
is because "You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the 
original Klingon: taH pagh, taH 
be?<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102975/quotes>"):

Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616. Hamlet. English.

My first question (and I think I once knew the answer but have forgotten) is, 
"Why?"
My second question is, "Does anyone know if this rule was retained in RDA?  I 
can't seem to find it."

Steven

From: hasafran-bounces+bernsteinstj=mail.ccsu....@lists.service.ohio-state.edu 
[mailto:hasafran-bounces+bernsteinstj=mail.ccsu....@lists.service.ohio-state.edu]
 On Behalf Of Rachel Fischer
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:55 AM
To: Rachel Fischer
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] RDA and the Bible

Some people seem to be confused and misunderstand my question, but I have 
already had the right answer so I do not need to post this, but in case I do 
need to further explain the answer I will. I was meaning to refer to the 
context of any public or academic library cataloging the RDA example that just 
is for the book of Genesis or the book of Gospels as individually bound items. 
RDA is confusing and disorganized and does not make sense, so if I FRBRize it, 
it one example that RDA is thinking (in their own Christian minds) when they 
make their statements could look like this:

Work- The Bible
E1- The Old Testament
E2- The New Testament
M1- A publication of separately bound books of the bible- in a series
I1-Genesis
I2- Exodus
etc.
I6- Matthew
etc.

In this case it would still say on the title page Old Testament (or Hebrew 
Bible) and New Testament. I would still feel comfortable saying you should 
still designate something separate for the book of Genesis so it is considered 
a separate Work in the bib. record even if the local practice is Old Testament, 
to educate the public that it is a different historical work from the book of 
Matthew as a New Testament, in the case that New Testament is on the title 
page. If a book of Genesis is separately published within a series and has some 
designation, either Hebrew bible or Old Testament, it would be wrong to not 
write it out as it appears on the title page, when RDA has been stating to not 
include it. If it is not written out then the record is not displaying the 
proper data. But we can obviously make the choice as we wish, not to cary this 
on any further, but to clarify the example that I am thinking of...
Rachel

--- On Sat, 6/2/12, Rachel Fischer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

From: Rachel Fischer <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RDA and the Bible
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 4:07 PM
Hi
I am currently taking a class that is comparing RDA to AACR2. I am unhappy with 
certain changes that RDA is making. Module 4 in this training series: 
http://www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/rda/trainthetrainer.html talks about 
changes to how the bible should be represented. It says that in the cases of 
individual books, like Genesis, we no longer are supposed to label it as Old 
Testament, just Genesis, Bible. I was wondering how others feel about this. I 
am wondering if this is a step back to other people, besides me when it comes 
to issues of a Christian bias. I want it to be labeled as the Old Testament and 
given a distinction that shows that it is a Jewish version and not a Christian 
version that has been published along with a New Testament related series that 
would be part of a Christian series. Has there been any discussion or 
complaints about this that I haven't seen yet or are Jews in agreement that 
this change is alright?

Rachel Fischer
MLIS Student- Dominican University
Volunteer Librarian- Oak Park Temple



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