Another interesting Lira website - this one gives typical historic tunings: http://www.ukrfolk.kiev.ua/epos/eng/texts/2.html Orest
-- Simon Wascher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Am 11.12.2007 um 15:42 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes, as I say, though the keys are more-or-less equally spaced, the > tangents are offset by quite a bit to make up the difference. I > think its safe to say that this is a lyra and not a vielle, given > the size of the wheel, the lack of a chien, and the spacing of the > keys - also that it is played by Andrey Vinogradov, who plays lyra > and rylia, somewhat narrows down the possibilities. > > Point of clarification, most Lyrniks and Kobzars were killed > (murdered, exterminated) under orders of the Stalin government. > "Died" just sounds to innocuous to describe what really happened. > there seems to be a quite lively polish "Lira" tribe today, do you happen to know how this is related to the Lyrniks and Kobzars? Anyway there was pretty much time to create new traditions since Stalins death in 1953. At least most of todays european traditions were more death than alive in 1953, like the hurdy-gurdy traditions not just in the Ukraine. Klezmer for example wove new threads into traditions since. A quick search on ÐиÑа ÐолÑÑÐ½Ð°Ñ gives 1270 Google hits, so there is at least ab it of it out there... would be interested to learn more... Simon > > > Orest > > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is that a lyra ? I would say yes , it looks like the > instruments used by > russian and ukranian " lynikis " from old photos . > May I remind you that most lirnikis died in the Stalin period . > > The instrument is also similar to the one in Boston fine arts > museum > that was labelled as french in 1995 , I do not know if the label > has been > changed . > > Do you notice that the tangents are in a very extreme position ? > > > > > > > > >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [HG] Is this a Lyra ? > >Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:57 GMT > > > >It looks like a Lyra. Vinogradov also plays Rylia, but that has a > >different shape. I wonder whether this one is pentatonic? The > keys are > >spaced so far apart. They are not quite equal, the keys nearer to > the > >wheel are closer together, but also, the tangents are offset by > quite a > >bit. > >Orest > > > >-- "Graham Whyte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Just listen to this > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DX08nQows0 > > > >Its great sound and a great tune > > > >I don't think its an HG > >I am pretty sure it's a Lyra > > > >It has EQUALLY SPACED KEYS !!! > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click to get the coolest ring tones on your phone, fast and easy --- have a look at: http://hurdygurdywiki.wiki-site.com http://drehleierwiki.wiki-site.com --- my site: http://simonwascher.info _____________________________________________________________ Compare Cell Phone Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH67f1y2qPQ2GjEZk7rP88scr1YzJBJxSvAuV3jM0P6xG8/
