Oh yeah I understand. There is only very rudmentry 3d support, in no way
capable of supporting any game. My point was more on the radical rate at
which they are evolving in comparison. Even the purely reverse engineered
open source NVIDIA driver is out doing the proprietary one in terms of 2d.
Now I of course realise there is a big jump from that to capable 3d, but
considering (iirc) amd have developers working on the open source driver, I
see it as mainly a matter of time before it becomes a viable alternative.

On 18 Jun 2010 22:01, "Bob Somers" <magicbob...@gmail.com> wrote:

Katrina, I'm not giving lectures on computer graphics here. Google has
all the information you asked for. If you'd like, I can also recommend
some graphics textbooks which would clear things up. Also, saying a
Linux system running on a 100 MHz machine is comparable to Windows
running on a 2 GHz machine is a ridiculous overstatement. They are not
that radically different. If you're so convinced you can make the
words best software renderer, by all means go do it. I'm sure at the
very least you can wave your SIGGRAPH paper in our faces when you're
done.

Josh, I'm not sure you can call it better Linux support if their 3D
support is... well... really bad. They may have opened up their
hardware spec so that the free drivers can get rolling (I have tried
the new drivers in Fedora 13 and they are quite good so far), but the
free drivers are at least a year behind their Windows counterpart in
terms of supporting the full features of the cards. There is virtually
zero shader support in the free drivers at this point. nVidia's
drivers, on the other hand, may be proprietary, but at least you can
get decent 3D performance out of the machine on a current distro. The
proprietary ATI driver has decent support and performance, but it
won't run on anything newer than Fedora 11. (Sorry if I keep
referencing things in terms of Fedora versions, it's my distro of
choice.)

I'm all for free software, don't get me wrong. I would love for
nothing more than to have free alternative drivers for ATI and nVidia
cards, but if gaming is really going to be commercially viable on the
Linux desktop it's the performance that matters. No publisher is going
to bother trying to ship a game for Linux where the poor driver
support is going to cause them support headaches all day long.

--Bob





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