If you need more enlightenment from PB's side, go through their forums....even start with this topic:
http://www.crimeprev.org/mat/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bb17dfa6bf6ffff;act=ST;f=12;t=1694

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddha-Pest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: PB no more.....

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> we've heard PB's side?  oh, you mean the sudden rant on their news page?
> i'm sorry, but i am still waiting for the explanation from the PB side...
>
> Either:
> 1. Tony went to Valve to ask them to finance PB (either by outright buying
> them, or by funding them).  Valve said no or didn't respond or did not
> respond IN TIME.  Tony threw a fit.
> 2. Tony keeps asking for support from Valve (btw, this isn't "answering
> questions" probably more like having a gander at the source or asking for
> new APIs in the SDK).  Valve said no or didn't respond or didn't respond IN
> TIME.  Tony threw a fit.
> 3. Both
>
> my guess: it's mostly 1 and a wee bit of 2.
>
>
> don't get me wrong here guys, i want to see PB + HL work.  i have supported
> PB from the get go.  i appreciate what these VOLUNTEERS have done.  i
> respect them.  I AM WILLING TO PAY THEM FOR A SERVER PRODUCT.  but i do not
> support the way they handle basically every fucking issue.  which is with
> anger and stubbornness.
>
> consider how unresponsive PB has been to admins over the last year (Clan Tag
> Registry is a great example), how for months they refused to allow the
> product to go in an unexpected direction (even a month ago PB support was
> still referring to PB as a product for leagues), how totally unsupportive
> they were with 3rd party apps (until about 2 months ago, but i won't forget
> the previous months because not only were they unsupportive, they kept
> flinging that software agreement around at anyone trying to customize PB
> some).  do i want them to get their just deserts?  no!  but i'm just
> pointing out that these guys are not martyrs of any sort.  they're a decent
> bunch of developers with a great idea and now they want to drop the ball on
> the very community that made them successful...  and they're going to
> jealously guard this technology too, mark my words.  i have trouble
> supporting that.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Hall" <
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:24 PM
> Subject: RE: PB no more.....
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> > > why is Valve the one that *HAS* to respond?
> >
> > Because we've heard PB's side.  We deserve to know what's going on...
> >
> > Eric (the Deacon remix)
> >
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