[quote] If you have any cheats for multiplayer games installed on your computer, now would be a good time to uninstall and stop using them. [/quote]
So is Valve taking the stand that once a cheater is OK as long as it's not during our pre-released timeframe that we'll be watching period? How about you start logging last week and then take that information into effect next week so you smoke ALL of the detected cheats currently in use instead of letting them shut them off long enough for you to start your testing and give myg0t time to find a way around that too so they can all turn them on again. Our view is that if you're low-life enough to have EVER use them than you have violated the TOS of the purchased game and they should be dealt with as such. But then again this is Valve we're talking about and they only give a "bite" with no teeth. You have a published TOS that you need to stand behind and MAKE the cheats/hacks an issue of the past. Not give them warning that the update is coming. We've dealt with these people for nearly a year without your help and now you give them the opportunity to 'redeem' themselves. Sure, ok. If they discontinue use of cheats that your company has allowed to propagate then who are we to complain right? Ultimately, you left the people that give your clients a place to play in the wind and some of us stuck through it all. (We support 1.6 but not CSS) We gave you nearly a year to do something about it. The facts speak for themselves. To all employees of ValveSoftware: You are obviously not able to deal with the cheating/hacking of your software. Your history has proved to the entire community that you are unable/unwilling to take the necessary measures to dela with cheating/hacking. I implore you to acquire some type of association with the AC community to save your game from self-destruction. I can say without reservation that I personally know that over 50% of the people I know that were avid CS players have left the game for CoD, BF/DC, Bia. That perspective shows me that there is a complete lack of confidence that Valve will follow through with their TOS and/or they are unable to do so. The fact remains that for your game to continue to be the leading edge of online gaming that AC needs to be TOP priority. History has shown your view otherwise. IMMEDIATE, SWIFT, and DECISIVE action is required to deal with the onslaught of cheating/hacking in the game that you are in control of. If you can't handle the job then it only makes sense to give the job to a dedicated team that can. That does no harm to your firm but affirms your company's desire to keep pure the game that you spend so much time/money in developing. I hope these words do not fall on deaf ears. Ray S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch VAC2 is top priority right now, check your Steam client for the message we released today about it. - Alfred -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch Sure, great, whatever. I've been here for years as well and I've seen about 11 months go by since the last VAC update. So how about that quote in late December of "VAC2 is coming 'soon'"? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch If you consider what goes through this list a "torrent", what do you consider what goes through the SteamPowered forums? :-) I would imagine that Valve has very strict rules governing who can post here and what they can say. Most companies do, or at least once their lawyers soak them for a million dollars for something some mouthy employee posts, then they have such policies :) I've been on this list for a couple of years, and we have seen several Valve people come and go. For the most part we have received silence, and then every now and then someone like you pops up and actually contributes to the list, answers questions, and addresses issues. For a while. Then one day they vanish, and we get nothing but silence for another six months. I imagine most of us that have been around here for a while are 1) glad we get what support we do get and 2) have lost a lot of respect for Valve because of the many prolonged episodes of silence that we get. I think I speak for most if not all of us when I say we are very gratefull for your presence here, and all you contribute. And don't forget - we are on the outside looking in, and all we know is what you tell us. You might take for granted information that none of us have access to. Maybe you aren't allowed to talk about things like how many programmers you have, what they work on, what their plans are priorities are, etc. Over the years we have discussed many problems here and we come away from these discussions frustrated and angry because Valve won't tell us what is going on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch > This is the dedicated server list, not a HL2DM one (we are accepting > of all mods on this list ;-) Actually lots of people in the company > subscribe to this list but only a couple of us are game enough to > dabble our toes in the proverbial torrent of this list. There is also > no shooting of messengers, Valve has a very flat and egalitarian > structure (I am a programmer working on a large range of projects, I > just also happen to participate in this list). > > - Alfred > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham > Robinson > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred: Delay in HL2DM patch > > Alfred, > > I'm sure that I speak for everyone on this mailing list when I say > thank you for actually listening and responding to us. But when you > say that the HL2DM team are preparing the update*, where are they? > Don't they subscribe to their own mailing list? You seem to be the > messenger, which inevitably means you will be shot (probably with some > form of awp) for just passing on someone else's information. > > * Obviously you said 'we' here but you have said this in different > emails. > > Graham > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:05:35 -0800, Alfred Reynolds > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We are preparing the release right now, it will be out later today. >> >> - Alfred > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
