Spot on L. Duke, it's unfortunate that Valve hasn't adopted the same common sense approach to the matter.
As it is now there's an incentive to mislead players which ends up making it more difficult for players to find custom servers rather than easier, which clearly isn't the goal of the custom tab. If all servers are on one tab and they can be sorted based on tags server owners will have a reason to be upfront about the modifications they're running. Servers running instant spawn or increased crit multipliers want players to know that they're running those addons, unfortunately with the current incarnation of the custom tab it's far too damaging to do so. Sadly this will just end up being another footnote of this mailing list. Valve will continue its crusade against the custom tab list, and the majority of server owners will continue to subvert it. Valve ends up wasting money, server owners end up wasting time which results in the players losing out the most. A lose, lose situation regardless of the angle. Implement all of the servers on a single tab and make it easy to sort through those servers. If you give all servers equivalent face time when a user first loads up the list it will be in a server owners best interest to be forthcoming about the game altering plugins/hacks they are running. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:23 PM, LDuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It will be pointless as long as there is incentive for plugins to not add > tags (like now). > > If all tags are used for is filtering/searching and the servers are on one > tab, then plugins that modify any aspect of the ngame would be likely to > add > a tag so players that enjoy the plugin can find the server. Then there > would be no more CSSDM or ZM cluttering up the server name (which was the > reason Valve gave for implementing sv_tags in the first place. > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Ben B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree. with plugins that now can change spawn times and crit > variables > > w/o changing the cvars (mp_respawnwavetime; sv_weapon_criticals) that > are > > picked up by sv_tags, the custom tab is kind of pointless. > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:48 PM, P. Bhandal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You want to see 32 man servers on the internet tab as well? > > > > > > Glad to see the change of heart, Ronny boy! > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, would be nice to see the 32 player servers and all other custom > > > > servers > > > > on the correct tab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully the Custom tab [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "1nsane ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: 2008-05-02 03:27 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> More bugfixes! Yay! I'll be waiting. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jason Ruymen < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Later today we'll be releasing a required Team Fortress 2 > update. > > > No > > > > >>> specific timeframe yet, but we hope to have it out soon. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Jason > > > > >>> > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >>> please visit: > > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > From Ben. 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