Who ever sent that last email - your email client butchered it. On 03/05/2008, Jason H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > almost all custom servers are on the internet tab now so delisting them > would kill tf2 for the weekend lol > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Fri, 2 May > 2008 19:08:22 -0400> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming> > > Hey, news for you pal.> > Delisting will be ruthlessly countered if being on > the proper tab kills> 90-100% of server traffic.> > - voogru.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James McKenna> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:22 PM> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server > mailing list> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming> > Maybe > this update is to delist the custom servers. I wouldn't be surprised.> Just > in time for the free weekend.> > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM, P. Bhandal > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Spot on L. Duke, it's unfortunate that > Valve hasn't adopted the same> > common> > sense approach to the matter.> >> > > As it is now there's an incentive to mislead players which ends up making> > > it> > more difficult for players to find custom servers rather than > easier,> > which> > clearly isn't the goal of the custom tab. If all servers > are on one tab> > and> > they can be sorted based on tags server owners will > have a reason to be> > upfront about the modifications they're running. > Servers running instant> > spawn or increased crit multipliers want players > to know that they're> > running those addons, unfortunately with the current > incarnation of the> > custom tab it's far too damaging to do so.> >> > Sadly > this will just end up being another footnote of this mailing list.> > Valve > will continue its crusade against the custom tab list, and the> > majority > of server owners will continue to subvert it. Valve ends up> > wasting> > > money, server owners end up wasting time which results in the players> > > losing> > out the most. A lose, lose situation regardless of the angle.> >> > > Implement all of the servers on a single tab and make it easy to sort> > > through those servers. If you give all servers equivalent face time when a> > > user first loads up the list it will be in a server owners best interest> > > to> > be forthcoming about the game altering plugins/hacks they are > running.> >> > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:23 PM, LDuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:> >> > > It will be pointless as long as there is incentive for > plugins to not> > add> > > tags (like now).> > >> > > If all tags are used > for is filtering/searching and the servers are on> > one> > > tab, then > plugins that modify any aspect of the ngame would be likely to> > > add> > > > a tag so players that enjoy the plugin can find the server. Then there> > > > would be no more CSSDM or ZM cluttering up the server name (which was> > > the> > > reason Valve gave for implementing sv_tags in the first place.> > > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Ben B > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> > > > I agree. with plugins that > now can change spawn times and crit> > > variables> > > > w/o changing the > cvars (mp_respawnwavetime; sv_weapon_criticals) that> > > are> > > > picked > up by sv_tags, the custom tab is kind of pointless.> > > >> > > > On Fri, > May 2, 2008 at 1:48 PM, P. Bhandal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > You want to see 32 man servers on the internet tab as well?> > > > >> > > > > > Glad to see the change of heart, Ronny boy!> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, > May 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Ronny Schedel <> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, would be nice to see the 32 > player servers and all other> > custom> > > > > > servers> > > > > > on the > correct tab.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Hopefully the Custom tab > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----> > > > > > > > From: "1nsane > ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server > mailing list"> > > > > > > <[email protected]>> > > > > > > Sent: > 2008-05-02 03:27 PM> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update > Coming> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> More bugfixes! Yay! I'll be > waiting.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jason > Ruymen <> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Later today we'll be releasing a required Team Fortress 2> > > > update.> > > > > No> > > > > > >>> specific timeframe yet, but we hope > to have it out soon.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Jason> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> _______________________________________________> > > > > > >>> To > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > > > > > archives,> > > > > > >>> please visit:> > > > > > >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________> > > > > > >> To > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > > > > > archives,> > > > > > >> please visit:> > > > > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, > edit your list preferences, or view the list> > > > archives,> > > > > > > > please visit:> > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > > > archives,> > > > > > please visit:> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > > To unsubscribe, > edit your list preferences, or view the list> > archives,> > > > > please > visit:> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > From Ben. 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