if that's what they do it will be a huge miscalculation.
James McKenna wrote: > Maybe this update is to delist the custom servers. I wouldn't be surprised. > Just in time for the free weekend. > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM, P. Bhandal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Spot on L. Duke, it's unfortunate that Valve hasn't adopted the same >> common >> sense approach to the matter. >> >> As it is now there's an incentive to mislead players which ends up making >> it >> more difficult for players to find custom servers rather than easier, >> which >> clearly isn't the goal of the custom tab. If all servers are on one tab >> and >> they can be sorted based on tags server owners will have a reason to be >> upfront about the modifications they're running. Servers running instant >> spawn or increased crit multipliers want players to know that they're >> running those addons, unfortunately with the current incarnation of the >> custom tab it's far too damaging to do so. >> >> Sadly this will just end up being another footnote of this mailing list. >> Valve will continue its crusade against the custom tab list, and the >> majority of server owners will continue to subvert it. Valve ends up >> wasting >> money, server owners end up wasting time which results in the players >> losing >> out the most. A lose, lose situation regardless of the angle. >> >> Implement all of the servers on a single tab and make it easy to sort >> through those servers. If you give all servers equivalent face time when a >> user first loads up the list it will be in a server owners best interest >> to >> be forthcoming about the game altering plugins/hacks they are running. >> >> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:23 PM, LDuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> It will be pointless as long as there is incentive for plugins to not >>> >> add >> >>> tags (like now). >>> >>> If all tags are used for is filtering/searching and the servers are on >>> >> one >> >>> tab, then plugins that modify any aspect of the ngame would be likely to >>> add >>> a tag so players that enjoy the plugin can find the server. Then there >>> would be no more CSSDM or ZM cluttering up the server name (which was >>> >> the >> >>> reason Valve gave for implementing sv_tags in the first place. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Ben B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I agree. with plugins that now can change spawn times and crit >>>> >>> variables >>> >>>> w/o changing the cvars (mp_respawnwavetime; sv_weapon_criticals) that >>>> >>> are >>> >>>> picked up by sv_tags, the custom tab is kind of pointless. >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:48 PM, P. Bhandal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> You want to see 32 man servers on the internet tab as well? >>>>> >>>>> Glad to see the change of heart, Ronny boy! >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Ronny Schedel < >>>>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, would be nice to see the 32 player servers and all other >>>>>> >> custom >> >>>>>> servers >>>>>> on the correct tab. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hopefully the Custom tab [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "1nsane ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: 2008-05-02 03:27 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> More bugfixes! Yay! I'll be waiting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jason Ruymen < >>>>>>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Later today we'll be releasing a required Team Fortress 2 >>>>>>>>> >>> update. >>> >>>>> No >>>>> >>>>>>>>> specific timeframe yet, but we hope to have it out soon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>> archives, >>>>> >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>> archives, >>>>> >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> >>>> archives, >>>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> >> archives, >> >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> From Ben. B (Goerge) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

