But then that will tell Steam to set it's download rate to 50000 too, the next time you reboot Steam is really messed up.
It happens to a large percentage of players and they dont know what is happening or why, it just generates a bad impression. All over a silly thing that doesn't need to happen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cc2iscooL" To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans > That's why we type "rate 50000" in the console. > > Kevin Ottalini wrote: >> Except that the Steam Download rate also gets forced over the client's >> rate >> too (rate changes go both ways). >> >> Who wants to use a rate of 9999 for playing TF2? >> >> This is exactly why I wrote that app so I could have the proper rate for >> Steam and the optimum rate for in-game. >> It would be much better for Valve to uncouple the two rate settings, they >> should not affect each other. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cc2iscooL" >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans >> >> >> >>> Not really. All the server browser does is send a query to every server >>> on the master list as the IP addresses are received. If your >>> router/connection can't handle the amount of traffic it will appear to >>> slow down or halt, which is why it's recommended to set your connection >>> to a low level. Setting the bandwidth lower shouldn't give you any "lag" >>> in anything dealing with Steam. >>> >>> [??R] The-/<iller wrote: >>> >>>> Hah i just have a 6/1 connection running a old befsr41 router and use >>>> max settings on steam and works great, if i put it at the 768 setting i >>>> get lag in anything dealing with steam..... i can see routers causing >>>> some issues but i think the root of the problem is steam.... >>>> >>>> Dustin Wyatt wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks guys. I made the mistake of assuming that having a 15/2 >>>>> internet connection and what is generally considered one of the best >>>>> consumer routers available (WRT54G running Tomato) would make querying >>>>> server lists a non-issue. >>>>> >>>>> I had to set steam down to the 768kbps setting to get reliable server >>>>> list refreshes... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dustin, >>>>>> The serverbrowsers (both Steam and in-game) use the rate settings >>>>>> in >>>>>> your Steam > settings > downloads >>>>>> >>>>>> If the Steam download settings are set too fast for your router then >>>>>> you'll >>>>>> get fewer servers in the listings and there will usually be big >>>>>> pauses. >>>>>> >>>>>> The in-game ServerBrowser works a little slower then the Steam >>>>>> Serverbrowser >>>>>> since it has to look at tags and things, so counter-intuitively >>>>>> slower >>>>>> is >>>>>> better in the case where the Steam download rate is set too fast. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you set the Steam Download Rate properly, both serverbrowsers will >>>>>> work >>>>>> properly. >>>>>> You must exit Steam and restart for the change to the rate setting to >>>>>> take >>>>>> effect. >>>>>> >>>>>> big catch: >>>>>> If you change your rate settings in-game, it very nicely will ALSO >>>>>> change >>>>>> your Steam download rate setting for you too, even if it's wrong. >>>>>> You won't see the problem until you restart Steam or reboot your >>>>>> system. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wrote an app that will prevent the Steam download rate from ever >>>>>> changing >>>>>> (the settings is in the registry), you can give that a try. >>>>>> http://qsextreme.com/SteamRate >>>>>> >>>>>> Just set it and lock it, restart Steam if you changed the setting, >>>>>> and >>>>>> minimize SteamRate to your tooltray. >>>>>> >>>>>> All this tool does is look occasionally at the registry setting and >>>>>> if >>>>>> it's >>>>>> different from the locked rate it will change it back. >>>>>> qUiCkSiLvEr >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Dustin Wyatt" >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:08 AM >>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, take a look at this pic: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.smackcentral.net/files/server_count.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I refreshed the desktop server browser and then immediately >>>>>>> refreshed >>>>>>> the in-game server browser. No matter how many times I do this, the >>>>>>> in-game browser always returns many more servers than the desktop >>>>>>> version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why is this so? _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

