But then that will tell Steam to set it's download rate to 50000 too, the 
next time you reboot Steam is really messed up.

It happens to a large percentage of players and they dont know what is 
happening or why, it just generates a bad impression.

All over a silly thing that doesn't need to happen.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cc2iscooL"
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans


> That's why we type "rate 50000" in the console.
>
> Kevin Ottalini wrote:
>> Except that the Steam Download rate also gets forced over the client's 
>> rate
>> too (rate changes go both ways).
>>
>> Who wants to use a rate of 9999 for playing TF2?
>>
>> This is exactly why I wrote that app so I could have the proper rate for
>> Steam and the optimum rate for in-game.
>> It would be much better for Valve to uncouple the two rate settings, they
>> should not affect each other.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cc2iscooL"
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans
>>
>>
>>
>>> Not really. All the server browser does is send a query to every server
>>> on the master list as the IP addresses are received. If your
>>> router/connection can't handle the amount of traffic it will appear to
>>> slow down or halt, which is why it's recommended to set your connection
>>> to a low level. Setting the bandwidth lower shouldn't give you any "lag"
>>> in anything dealing with Steam.
>>>
>>> [??R] The-/<iller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hah i just have a 6/1 connection running a old befsr41 router and use
>>>> max settings on steam and works great, if i put it at the 768 setting i
>>>> get lag in anything dealing with steam..... i can see routers causing
>>>> some issues but i think the root of the problem is steam....
>>>>
>>>> Dustin Wyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys.  I made the mistake of assuming that having a 15/2
>>>>> internet connection and what is generally considered one of the best
>>>>> consumer routers available (WRT54G running Tomato) would make querying
>>>>> server lists a non-issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to set steam down to the 768kbps setting to get reliable server
>>>>> list refreshes...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dustin,
>>>>>>    The serverbrowsers (both Steam and in-game) use the rate settings 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> your Steam > settings > downloads
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the Steam download settings are set too fast for your router then
>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>> get fewer servers in the listings and there will usually be big 
>>>>>> pauses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The in-game ServerBrowser works a little slower then the Steam
>>>>>> Serverbrowser
>>>>>> since it has to look at tags and things, so counter-intuitively 
>>>>>> slower
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> better in the case where the Steam download rate is set too fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you set the Steam Download Rate properly, both serverbrowsers will
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>> You must exit Steam and restart for the change to the rate setting to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> big catch:
>>>>>> If you change your rate settings in-game, it very nicely will ALSO
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> your Steam download rate setting for you too, even if it's wrong.
>>>>>> You won't see the problem until you restart Steam or reboot your
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote an app that will prevent the Steam download rate from ever
>>>>>> changing
>>>>>> (the settings is in the registry),  you can give that a try.
>>>>>> http://qsextreme.com/SteamRate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just set it and lock it, restart Steam if you changed the setting, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> minimize SteamRate to your tooltray.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All this tool does is look occasionally at the registry setting and 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> different from the locked rate it will change it back.
>>>>>> qUiCkSiLvEr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Dustin Wyatt"
>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:08 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, take a look at this pic:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.smackcentral.net/files/server_count.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I refreshed the desktop server browser and then immediately 
>>>>>>> refreshed
>>>>>>> the in-game server browser.  No matter how many times I do this, the
>>>>>>> in-game browser always returns many more servers than the desktop
>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is this so?


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