Yeah, that's the bad part. I'm sure, a huge part of the population using steam have no idea they're missing out on a large chunk of the servers out there. Bad for server admins, bad for gamers.
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Kevin Ottalini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But then that will tell Steam to set it's download rate to 50000 too, the > next time you reboot Steam is really messed up. > > It happens to a large percentage of players and they dont know what is > happening or why, it just generates a bad impression. > > All over a silly thing that doesn't need to happen. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cc2iscooL" > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans > > >> That's why we type "rate 50000" in the console. >> >> Kevin Ottalini wrote: >>> Except that the Steam Download rate also gets forced over the client's >>> rate >>> too (rate changes go both ways). >>> >>> Who wants to use a rate of 9999 for playing TF2? >>> >>> This is exactly why I wrote that app so I could have the proper rate for >>> Steam and the optimum rate for in-game. >>> It would be much better for Valve to uncouple the two rate settings, they >>> should not affect each other. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cc2iscooL" >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans >>> >>> >>> >>>> Not really. All the server browser does is send a query to every server >>>> on the master list as the IP addresses are received. If your >>>> router/connection can't handle the amount of traffic it will appear to >>>> slow down or halt, which is why it's recommended to set your connection >>>> to a low level. Setting the bandwidth lower shouldn't give you any "lag" >>>> in anything dealing with Steam. >>>> >>>> [??R] The-/<iller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hah i just have a 6/1 connection running a old befsr41 router and use >>>>> max settings on steam and works great, if i put it at the 768 setting i >>>>> get lag in anything dealing with steam..... i can see routers causing >>>>> some issues but i think the root of the problem is steam.... >>>>> >>>>> Dustin Wyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks guys. I made the mistake of assuming that having a 15/2 >>>>>> internet connection and what is generally considered one of the best >>>>>> consumer routers available (WRT54G running Tomato) would make querying >>>>>> server lists a non-issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had to set steam down to the 768kbps setting to get reliable server >>>>>> list refreshes... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dustin, >>>>>>> The serverbrowsers (both Steam and in-game) use the rate settings >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> your Steam > settings > downloads >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the Steam download settings are set too fast for your router then >>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>> get fewer servers in the listings and there will usually be big >>>>>>> pauses. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The in-game ServerBrowser works a little slower then the Steam >>>>>>> Serverbrowser >>>>>>> since it has to look at tags and things, so counter-intuitively >>>>>>> slower >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> better in the case where the Steam download rate is set too fast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you set the Steam Download Rate properly, both serverbrowsers will >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> properly. >>>>>>> You must exit Steam and restart for the change to the rate setting to >>>>>>> take >>>>>>> effect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> big catch: >>>>>>> If you change your rate settings in-game, it very nicely will ALSO >>>>>>> change >>>>>>> your Steam download rate setting for you too, even if it's wrong. >>>>>>> You won't see the problem until you restart Steam or reboot your >>>>>>> system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wrote an app that will prevent the Steam download rate from ever >>>>>>> changing >>>>>>> (the settings is in the registry), you can give that a try. >>>>>>> http://qsextreme.com/SteamRate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just set it and lock it, restart Steam if you changed the setting, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> minimize SteamRate to your tooltray. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All this tool does is look occasionally at the registry setting and >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> different from the locked rate it will change it back. >>>>>>> qUiCkSiLvEr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Dustin Wyatt" >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:08 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Server browser shenanigans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, take a look at this pic: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.smackcentral.net/files/server_count.jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I refreshed the desktop server browser and then immediately >>>>>>>> refreshed >>>>>>>> the in-game server browser. No matter how many times I do this, the >>>>>>>> in-game browser always returns many more servers than the desktop >>>>>>>> version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why is this so? > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
