Apologies for neglecting to change the Subject LINE!!! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Major Nut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @SaintK > I believe this is a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too" > > The search key by my interpretation of Valve is basically to tie a Lobby to > a DS. You are asking to have the search key ALSO by public. Lobbies by > default (no search key set) are looking to match map, difficulty, mode, and > to some degree ping (theory). Why? Because the design is to give the > players a choice on the game environment rather than viceversa, which is > what all of us Admins are accustom to. This is my best reasoning for your > situation and quite possibly Valve may implement another cvar to allow --> > having and eating cake. If you want your servers publically available, then > do not use the search key, dont do a lobby, as the alternative is for ppl > that CAN see the server just join it directly. > > @cc2iscool > > I guess I would say that your issue is dictated by your choice on effort to > educate. If you want your servers to be used only by your Community, then > you know how to do that. If those ppl want to specifically join it by > Lobby, they'll have to take the time to find out. Every client had to find > out how to use the damn server browser (with/without Custom tab) etc. > > At this point, us server admins need to have an idea of what the purpose is > for each of your DS'. For myself, it's desired to only be used by our > Community as this greatly minimizes, if not completely irradicates players > that sabotage. If you want a PUBLIC server, then ignore this configuration > offering. > > -- > [FLASH] MjrNuT > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > www.flamesandash.com > >> >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:37:02 +0100 >> From: "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers >> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Any reason why the server won't fill when the search key is set? From what >> I >> understand its like a tag, but shouldn't block out others who are not >> using >> the search key? After I set the search key, non of the 24 servers is >> getting >> player activity, other then community members. >> >> Cheers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Major Nut >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:29 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers >> >> I guess people have not figured this out yet, but we have our server doing >> all those things you are "petitioning for. Well, I have one exception to >> your list and that is: No. 4. You just have to know how to use it. The >> point of the key is basically a filter to tie the lobby leader to the >> desired DS, nothing more. Our has been quite successful the entire last >> week: >> >> server.cfg has these elements and nothing extra aside from hostname, rcon, >> log commands: >> >> set steam group >> no exclusive >> set search key value, w/ no quotes >> sv_allow_lobby connect cvar to 1 >> >> client setting: >> >> anyone wanting to be the lobby leader for that DS needs to enter in the >> sv_search_key similarly. >> >> Here is a link to spell it out for those that feel this works just fine as >> I'm not the only that has this working dandy: >> >> >> http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st >> =0&#entry18873<http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st=0&#entry18873> >> >> >> -- >> [FLASH] MjrNuT >> Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality >> >> www.flamesandash.com >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:46:47 -0600 >> From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Yes, you can use that, but the problem is... >> >> Most people are too lazy or don't care enough about the servers they join >> to >> bother opening up their console every time they start their game and >> typing >> sv_search_key whatever every time they want to play a game. Sure, some >> community members that are big into your community might do so, but a lot >> of >> people don't even know how to open the console, let alone type that >> command. >> I've tried to educate my community on it, but it's not easy as people just >> don't want to take the time to do it. >> >> > -- [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
