When I said "(Or should only have powers granted by server admins)" I meant you guys. There should obviously be some settings on servers to control how this all functions. But in essence, I want all of my community members to do all of what I said. Whether you guys want to be as lax with your members is something I think you guys should be able to control.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Major Nut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apologies for neglecting to change the Subject LINE!!! > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Major Nut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > @SaintK > > I believe this is a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too" > > > > The search key by my interpretation of Valve is basically to tie a Lobby > to > > a DS. You are asking to have the search key ALSO by public. Lobbies by > > default (no search key set) are looking to match map, difficulty, mode, > and > > to some degree ping (theory). Why? Because the design is to give the > > players a choice on the game environment rather than viceversa, which is > > what all of us Admins are accustom to. This is my best reasoning for > your > > situation and quite possibly Valve may implement another cvar to allow > --> > > having and eating cake. If you want your servers publically available, > then > > do not use the search key, dont do a lobby, as the alternative is for ppl > > that CAN see the server just join it directly. > > > > @cc2iscool > > > > I guess I would say that your issue is dictated by your choice on effort > to > > educate. If you want your servers to be used only by your Community, > then > > you know how to do that. If those ppl want to specifically join it by > > Lobby, they'll have to take the time to find out. Every client had to > find > > out how to use the damn server browser (with/without Custom tab) etc. > > > > At this point, us server admins need to have an idea of what the purpose > is > > for each of your DS'. For myself, it's desired to only be used by our > > Community as this greatly minimizes, if not completely irradicates > players > > that sabotage. If you want a PUBLIC server, then ignore this > configuration > > offering. > > > > -- > > [FLASH] MjrNuT > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > > > www.flamesandash.com > > > >> > >> > >> Message: 4 > >> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:37:02 +0100 > >> From: "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers > >> To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" > >> <[email protected]> > >> Message-ID: > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> Any reason why the server won't fill when the search key is set? From > what > >> I > >> understand its like a tag, but shouldn't block out others who are not > >> using > >> the search key? After I set the search key, non of the 24 servers is > >> getting > >> player activity, other then community members. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Major Nut > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:29 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers > >> > >> I guess people have not figured this out yet, but we have our server > doing > >> all those things you are "petitioning for. Well, I have one exception > to > >> your list and that is: No. 4. You just have to know how to use it. The > >> point of the key is basically a filter to tie the lobby leader to the > >> desired DS, nothing more. Our has been quite successful the entire last > >> week: > >> > >> server.cfg has these elements and nothing extra aside from hostname, > rcon, > >> log commands: > >> > >> set steam group > >> no exclusive > >> set search key value, w/ no quotes > >> sv_allow_lobby connect cvar to 1 > >> > >> client setting: > >> > >> anyone wanting to be the lobby leader for that DS needs to enter in the > >> sv_search_key similarly. > >> > >> Here is a link to spell it out for those that feel this works just fine > as > >> I'm not the only that has this working dandy: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st > >> =0&#entry18873< > http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st=0&#entry18873 > > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> [FLASH] MjrNuT > >> Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > >> > >> www.flamesandash.com > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 5 > >> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:46:47 -0600 > >> From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > >> <[email protected]> > >> Message-ID: > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> > >> Yes, you can use that, but the problem is... > >> > >> Most people are too lazy or don't care enough about the servers they > join > >> to > >> bother opening up their console every time they start their game and > >> typing > >> sv_search_key whatever every time they want to play a game. Sure, some > >> community members that are big into your community might do so, but a > lot > >> of > >> people don't even know how to open the console, let alone type that > >> command. > >> I've tried to educate my community on it, but it's not easy as people > just > >> don't want to take the time to do it. > >> > >> > > > > > -- > [FLASH] MjrNuT > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > www.flamesandash.com > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
