100% correct. I agree that fake playercounts are bad, I agree that illicit tactics in general are bad, all that stuff is bad, bad, bad - but I see why they happen. I don't have a sense of "entitlement" by simply being a server admin. I just see the problems and offer (what I think are) valid reasons for why they happen. JMDO in full effect.
The fact that these servers exist means there's a void that Valve is failing to fill (at least to me), and while I don't personally have all the answers, I am simply pointing out the shortcomings that lead server admins down that path. Yes, I agree that delisting these servers is a good idea - I simply think they need to take another step back and investigate why they happen in the first place. Valve may investigate it, Valve may not - I am simply doing my part by giving my feedback. ________________________________________ From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey [nephy...@doublezen.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:59 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Scoring - an open letter to Valve :) I don't really disagree with anything Richard has said, it's just not really the point (i think) karl is trying to put forth. > The current problems that exist aren't due to lack of tools, nor are they > due to the idea that the lack of them has forced you to turn to illicit > tactics which has jaded the players. What's jaded the players is server > operators who feel that they are entitled to something. Why does the point of this have to be arguing about whose fault it is? "Valve shouldn't improve the user experience because server operators screwed it up, not them" That's great for being all on your principles, but shitty for players. - Neph _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
