I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time
but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be fixed or
worked around.

Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban you
from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see TF2 
on your game list.  If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or 
community page I'd appreciate it.

I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 .  I'm not sure if the
second one is you or not.

Thanks in advance.

-octo

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
> OK let me rephrase.
> 
> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've used 
> this flaw many many times.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Ben Williams wrote:
> > Nope.
> > 
> > I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th.
> > 
> > Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th.
> > 
> > It happend in the September 15th update.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> >>
> >> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the 15th.
> >>
> >> Ben Williams wrote:
> >>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th.
> >>>
> >>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it.
> >>>
> >>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team 'Unassigned'
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Smashman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100
> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it with 
> >>>> clan
> >>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be done with
> >>>> these classes but possibly many more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>> Tirrel 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Octo
> >>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> >>>>
> >>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy
> >>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers..
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo
> >>>>
> >>>> Discussion about it can be found at:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604
> >>>>
> >>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143
> >>>>
> >>>> People I've had exploit it so far:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin
> >>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704
> >>>>
> >>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993
> >>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132
> >>>>
> >>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/
> >>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying to exploit
> >>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already
> >>>>
> >>>> -octo
> >>>>
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