Dear VALVe, Shit's broken. Please fix it.
Regards. Octo wrote: > I'm very glad I asked then, I wouldn't want to get the wrong people. > You can send me the id either on list or at this email address, as you > pointed out my detective skills aren't very strong so any assistance > from you would be appreciated. > > When you made your initial comment about doing it many many times I > assumed you were just a random griefer who hangs out on the mailing list > but seeing as that you are actually a Game and System admin I feel bad for > your user base. I hope that you're a bit more proactive about > notifying vendors about problems in their software when you're wearing > your system admin hat. > > -octo > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:51:06PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: >> At the risk of taking this email thread completely off topic, I am >> neither of those two accounts you have linked to (I'm Australian mate, >> g'day!). It is not my responsibility to advise VALVe of flaws in the >> game design rules of their software, as I don't work for them nor have >> anything to do with the game mechanics and the decisions made there-in. >> >> I'm pretty sure VALVe know about this design flaw. I'm also pretty damn >> sure they have more important bugs and changes to make before doing a >> quick-fix (and incidentally, forcing all TF2 servers in the world to >> update for something that is a relatively minor issue). >> >> But I do appreciate your concern regarding my use of a flaw in the game >> Octo, and I will quite happily provide you with my STEAMID so you can >> ban me from servers I will never play on. Ever. >> >> Kind Regards and Happy Posting! >> >> - Shane Arnold, Games/Systems Administrator of Nowhere Near the UK, Earth. >> >> (P.S awesome detective skills there Watson!) >> >> Octo wrote: >>> I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time >>> but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be fixed or >>> worked around. >>> >>> Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban you >>> from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see TF2 >>> on your game list. If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or >>> community page I'd appreciate it. >>> >>> I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and >>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 . I'm not sure if the >>> second one is you or not. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> -octo >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: >>>> OK let me rephrase. >>>> >>>> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've used >>>> this flaw many many times. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Ben Williams wrote: >>>>> Nope. >>>>> >>>>> I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th. >>>>> >>>>> Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th. >>>>> >>>>> It happend in the September 15th update. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800 >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the 15th. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ben Williams wrote: >>>>>>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team 'Unassigned' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Smashman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it with >>>>>>>> clan >>>>>>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be done with >>>>>>>> these classes but possibly many more. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tirrel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Octo >>>>>>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15 >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy >>>>>>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Discussion about it can be found at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People I've had exploit it so far: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993 >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/ >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying to >>>>>>>> exploit >>>>>>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -octo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>> >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
