Cheers bl4nk,

Will give this a run and let you know via AM thread.

bl4nk wrote:
> I just wrote a SourceMod plugin to combat this:
> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104806
> 
> It simply removes all pipebombs owned by a player once they switch teams 
> to spectator. It's currently untested, but in theory it should work. If 
> there are any problems with the plugin, please post them in the thread 
> instead of doing so here.
> 
> DontWannaName! wrote:
>> People have been doing this on my servers too, time to start banning.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Justin Sandusky <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> lmao...
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Shane Arnold <[email protected]
>>>     
>>>> wrote:
>>>>       
>>>> Dear VALVe,
>>>>
>>>> Shit's broken. Please fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Octo wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> I'm very glad I asked then, I wouldn't want to get the wrong people.
>>>>> You can send me the id either on list or at this email address, as you
>>>>> pointed out my detective skills aren't very strong so any assistance
>>>>> from you would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you made your initial comment about doing it many many times I
>>>>> assumed you were just a random griefer who hangs out on the mailing
>>>>>         
>>> list
>>>     
>>>>> but seeing as that you are actually a Game and System admin I feel bad
>>>>>         
>>>> for
>>>>       
>>>>> your user base.  I hope that you're a bit more proactive about
>>>>> notifying vendors about problems in their software when you're wearing
>>>>> your system admin hat.
>>>>>
>>>>> -octo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:51:06PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> At the risk of taking this email thread completely off topic, I am
>>>>>> neither of those two accounts you have linked to (I'm Australian mate,
>>>>>> g'day!). It is not my responsibility to advise VALVe of flaws in the
>>>>>> game design rules of their software, as I don't work for them nor have
>>>>>> anything to do with the game mechanics and the decisions made
>>>>>>           
>>> there-in.
>>>     
>>>>>> I'm pretty sure VALVe know about this design flaw. I'm also pretty
>>>>>>           
>>> damn
>>>     
>>>>>> sure they have more important bugs and changes to make before doing a
>>>>>> quick-fix (and incidentally, forcing all TF2 servers in the world to
>>>>>> update for something that is a relatively minor issue).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I do appreciate your concern regarding my use of a flaw in the
>>>>>>           
>>> game
>>>     
>>>>>> Octo, and I will quite happily provide you with my STEAMID so you can
>>>>>> ban me from servers I will never play on. Ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards and Happy Posting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   - Shane Arnold, Games/Systems Administrator of Nowhere Near the UK,
>>>>>>           
>>>> Earth.
>>>>       
>>>>>> (P.S awesome detective skills there Watson!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Octo wrote:
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time
>>>>>>> but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be
>>>>>>>             
>>> fixed
>>>     
>>>> or
>>>>       
>>>>>>> worked around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban
>>>>>>>             
>>> you
>>>     
>>>>>>> from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see
>>>>>>>             
>>>> TF2
>>>>       
>>>>>>> on your game list.  If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or
>>>>>>> community page I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and
>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 .  I'm not sure
>>>>>>>             
>>>> if the
>>>>       
>>>>>>> second one is you or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -octo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> OK let me rephrase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> used
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> this flaw many many times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ben Williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It happend in the September 15th update.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800
>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> 15th.
>>>     
>>>>>>>>>> Ben Williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> 'Unassigned'
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Smashman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> with clan
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> done
>>>     
>>>> with
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> these classes but possibly many more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tirrel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Octo
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy
>>>>>>>>>>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussion about it can be found at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People I've had exploit it so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin
>>>>>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993
>>>>>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/
>>>>>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> to
>>>     
>>>> exploit
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -octo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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