At the risk of taking this email thread completely off topic, I am neither of those two accounts you have linked to (I'm Australian mate, g'day!). It is not my responsibility to advise VALVe of flaws in the game design rules of their software, as I don't work for them nor have anything to do with the game mechanics and the decisions made there-in.
I'm pretty sure VALVe know about this design flaw. I'm also pretty damn sure they have more important bugs and changes to make before doing a quick-fix (and incidentally, forcing all TF2 servers in the world to update for something that is a relatively minor issue). But I do appreciate your concern regarding my use of a flaw in the game Octo, and I will quite happily provide you with my STEAMID so you can ban me from servers I will never play on. Ever. Kind Regards and Happy Posting! - Shane Arnold, Games/Systems Administrator of Nowhere Near the UK, Earth. (P.S awesome detective skills there Watson!) Octo wrote: > I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time > but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be fixed or > worked around. > > Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban you > from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see TF2 > on your game list. If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or > community page I'd appreciate it. > > I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and > http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 . I'm not sure if the > second one is you or not. > > Thanks in advance. > > -octo > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: >> OK let me rephrase. >> >> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've used >> this flaw many many times. >> >> Regards. >> >> Ben Williams wrote: >>> Nope. >>> >>> I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th. >>> >>> Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th. >>> >>> It happend in the September 15th update. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800 >>>> From: clontar...@iinet.net.au >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) >>>> >>>> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the 15th. >>>> >>>> Ben Williams wrote: >>>>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th. >>>>> >>>>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it. >>>>> >>>>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team 'Unassigned' >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Smashman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: thunderfox19...@gmail.com >>>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it with >>>>>> clan >>>>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be done with >>>>>> these classes but possibly many more. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Tirrel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Octo >>>>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15 >>>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) >>>>>> >>>>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy >>>>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers.. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo >>>>>> >>>>>> Discussion about it can be found at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604 >>>>>> >>>>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143 >>>>>> >>>>>> People I've had exploit it so far: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin >>>>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993 >>>>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/ >>>>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying to exploit >>>>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already >>>>>> >>>>>> -octo >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>> >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
