Bear in mind it's not just pipe.
Rockets do it, Flares do it..
Pretty much all Projectiles.
 




> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:30:04 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> 
> I just wrote a SourceMod plugin to combat this:
> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104806
> 
> It simply removes all pipebombs owned by a player once they switch teams 
> to spectator. It's currently untested, but in theory it should work. If 
> there are any problems with the plugin, please post them in the thread 
> instead of doing so here.
> 
> DontWannaName! wrote:
> > People have been doing this on my servers too, time to start banning.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Justin Sandusky <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> lmao...
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Shane Arnold <[email protected]
> >>     
> >>> wrote:
> >>>       
> >>> Dear VALVe,
> >>>
> >>> Shit's broken. Please fix it.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>>
> >>> Octo wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> I'm very glad I asked then, I wouldn't want to get the wrong people.
> >>>> You can send me the id either on list or at this email address, as you
> >>>> pointed out my detective skills aren't very strong so any assistance
> >>>> from you would be appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> When you made your initial comment about doing it many many times I
> >>>> assumed you were just a random griefer who hangs out on the mailing
> >>>>         
> >> list
> >>     
> >>>> but seeing as that you are actually a Game and System admin I feel bad
> >>>>         
> >>> for
> >>>       
> >>>> your user base.  I hope that you're a bit more proactive about
> >>>> notifying vendors about problems in their software when you're wearing
> >>>> your system admin hat.
> >>>>
> >>>> -octo
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:51:06PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
> >>>>         
> >>>>> At the risk of taking this email thread completely off topic, I am
> >>>>> neither of those two accounts you have linked to (I'm Australian mate,
> >>>>> g'day!). It is not my responsibility to advise VALVe of flaws in the
> >>>>> game design rules of their software, as I don't work for them nor have
> >>>>> anything to do with the game mechanics and the decisions made
> >>>>>           
> >> there-in.
> >>     
> >>>>> I'm pretty sure VALVe know about this design flaw. I'm also pretty
> >>>>>           
> >> damn
> >>     
> >>>>> sure they have more important bugs and changes to make before doing a
> >>>>> quick-fix (and incidentally, forcing all TF2 servers in the world to
> >>>>> update for something that is a relatively minor issue).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I do appreciate your concern regarding my use of a flaw in the
> >>>>>           
> >> game
> >>     
> >>>>> Octo, and I will quite happily provide you with my STEAMID so you can
> >>>>> ban me from servers I will never play on. Ever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind Regards and Happy Posting!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   - Shane Arnold, Games/Systems Administrator of Nowhere Near the UK,
> >>>>>           
> >>> Earth.
> >>>       
> >>>>> (P.S awesome detective skills there Watson!)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Octo wrote:
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time
> >>>>>> but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be
> >>>>>>             
> >> fixed
> >>     
> >>> or
> >>>       
> >>>>>> worked around.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban
> >>>>>>             
> >> you
> >>     
> >>>>>> from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see
> >>>>>>             
> >>> TF2
> >>>       
> >>>>>> on your game list.  If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or
> >>>>>> community page I'd appreciate it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and
> >>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 .  I'm not sure
> >>>>>>             
> >>> if the
> >>>       
> >>>>>> second one is you or not.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -octo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> OK let me rephrase.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've
> >>>>>>>               
> >>> used
> >>>       
> >>>>>>> this flaw many many times.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ben Williams wrote:
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It happend in the September 15th update.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>                 
> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800
> >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >> 15th.
> >>     
> >>>>>>>>> Ben Williams wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                   
> >>>>>>>>>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team
> >>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>> 'Unassigned'
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Smashman
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>                     
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it
> >>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >>> with clan
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >> done
> >>     
> >>> with
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>> these classes but possibly many more.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tirrel
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Octo
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy
> >>>>>>>>>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers..
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Discussion about it can be found at:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> People I've had exploit it so far:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin
> >>>>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993
> >>>>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/
> >>>>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying
> >>>>>>>>>>>                       
> >> to
> >>     
> >>> exploit
> >>>       
> >>>>>>>>>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -octo
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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