People have been doing this on my servers too, time to start banning.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Justin Sandusky <
[email protected]> wrote:

> lmao...
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Shane Arnold <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear VALVe,
> >
> > Shit's broken. Please fix it.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Octo wrote:
> > > I'm very glad I asked then, I wouldn't want to get the wrong people.
> > > You can send me the id either on list or at this email address, as you
> > > pointed out my detective skills aren't very strong so any assistance
> > > from you would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > When you made your initial comment about doing it many many times I
> > > assumed you were just a random griefer who hangs out on the mailing
> list
> > > but seeing as that you are actually a Game and System admin I feel bad
> > for
> > > your user base.  I hope that you're a bit more proactive about
> > > notifying vendors about problems in their software when you're wearing
> > > your system admin hat.
> > >
> > > -octo
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:51:06PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
> > >> At the risk of taking this email thread completely off topic, I am
> > >> neither of those two accounts you have linked to (I'm Australian mate,
> > >> g'day!). It is not my responsibility to advise VALVe of flaws in the
> > >> game design rules of their software, as I don't work for them nor have
> > >> anything to do with the game mechanics and the decisions made
> there-in.
> > >>
> > >> I'm pretty sure VALVe know about this design flaw. I'm also pretty
> damn
> > >> sure they have more important bugs and changes to make before doing a
> > >> quick-fix (and incidentally, forcing all TF2 servers in the world to
> > >> update for something that is a relatively minor issue).
> > >>
> > >> But I do appreciate your concern regarding my use of a flaw in the
> game
> > >> Octo, and I will quite happily provide you with my STEAMID so you can
> > >> ban me from servers I will never play on. Ever.
> > >>
> > >> Kind Regards and Happy Posting!
> > >>
> > >>   - Shane Arnold, Games/Systems Administrator of Nowhere Near the UK,
> > Earth.
> > >>
> > >> (P.S awesome detective skills there Watson!)
> > >>
> > >> Octo wrote:
> > >>> I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time
> > >>> but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be
> fixed
> > or
> > >>> worked around.
> > >>>
> > >>> Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban
> you
> > >>> from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see
> > TF2
> > >>> on your game list.  If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or
> > >>> community page I'd appreciate it.
> > >>>
> > >>> I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and
> > >>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 .  I'm not sure
> > if the
> > >>> second one is you or not.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks in advance.
> > >>>
> > >>> -octo
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
> > >>>> OK let me rephrase.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've
> > used
> > >>>> this flaw many many times.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ben Williams wrote:
> > >>>>> Nope.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It happend in the September 15th update.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800
> > >>>>>> From: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the
> 15th.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ben Williams wrote:
> > >>>>>>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team
> > 'Unassigned'
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Smashman
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> > >>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it
> > with clan
> > >>>>>>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be
> done
> > with
> > >>>>>>>> these classes but possibly many more.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Tirrel
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> > >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Octo
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15
> > >>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy
> > >>>>>>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers..
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Discussion about it can be found at:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> People I've had exploit it so far:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin
> > >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993
> > >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/
> > >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying
> to
> > exploit
> > >>>>>>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -octo
> > >>>>>>>>
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