lol I cant believe you are still saying stuff. we can all see what you wrote, you do realize that don't you? steam commander dogged your little dick in the dirt kid, grow up and stop spamming the list no one here likes you, especially us girls.
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:33:09 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) 1. I never said that. I said two of the addresses weren't. 2. No, I said making accusations will make people notice and do a follow up. 3. I never said any such thing. My last post to this list was ARGUING with Dr. McKay on how reporting that a user is quickplay can be abused. You should try, you know, using your eyes and reading some time. 4. It didn't take that much free time to, you know, look at the email source. Most mail clients have that ability. 5. Yup, I can't confirm or deny SOMEONE ELSE's previous accusations of you and others being the same person. You know, the same check I just did on your (proven to be false) claims. 6. Yup, you can accuse me of being a duplicate, but you'd have a mighty hard time of proving that. Particularly since I've been an active member of this list since... 2009? I'm also active in several other TF2 communities, such as Reddit /r/tf2 and Allied Modders. In other words, *I* have a very traceable history. As for the Microsoft and Google services, I wasn't aware of them. I was just going by the mail headers which trivially proved you wrong for at least two of them. On 6/16/2013 9:26 PM, Steam Commander wrote: LMAO. So let us all get this straight... 1) You claim my accusations that [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] are untraceable. 2) You state that 'Throw(ing) false accusations around' will make people notice and thus do a follow up investigation. 3) You admit that you made false accusations in your original posting. 4) You have so much free time that you actually claim to have looked into the tracing of each message origin. 5) You admit that you cant confirm or deny previous accusations. 6) You invite accusation that this is just another account you use to troll this list. You're a smart one aren't you(sarcasm). Microsoft and Google both provide a service for tracing email origin ip. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would already know this. It is extremely obvious that you and your multiple accounts only exist to troll this mailing list. I would offer the assumption that you are a pinion employee based on your insistent stance that MOTD is essential to a gamers experience and your clandestine approach towards proving an accusation that you admit is false in the first place. May I suggest you make some use of your skills with fiction writing and create some game content. Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:09:44 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) You know, if you throw accusations of that around, someone is bound to check and notice that you're lying. For instance: [email protected]'s last message was received by list.valvesoftware.com from batman.drmckay.com [50.115.172.11]... it was also routed through mail-wi0-f172.google.com supposedly first, but I can't verify that part of the chain. [email protected]'s last message was received by mx.google.com from 98.124.110.151 [email protected]'s last message was received by BAY170-W81 [65.54.190.59] (one of Microsoft's mail servers) which blatantly removed the IP it received mail from in violation of the specs. [email protected]'s last message was received by mail-bk0-f45.google.com from 10.204.4.205... which isn't an Internet-routable address. Presumably, this is one of Google's internal servers and they are also blatantly removing the IP it received mail from in violation of the specs. Incidentally, Microsoft not including the IPs it received mail from is why we can't confirm or deny the previous accusation of 3/4/5 people posting from the same address, because they were all from Microsoft's mail properties (Outlook, Hotmail, Live). And as you've noticed, GMail is no better about this if you use its web interface. But feel free to accuse me of being a duplicate too, because I'm pretty sure you'll see that mine is received by one of Google's servers from IP 23.28.13.44. On 6/16/2013 8:50 PM, Steam Commander wrote: make that four accounts with the same origin ip [50.115.172.19], also registered to doctormckay.com... [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] email origin is not the same as the mailing list, thanks for expressing your concern so as to make me look closer at your trail too. From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:43:49 +0100 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) Valve's mailing list IP? On 17 June 2013 01:41, Steam Commander <[email protected]> wrote: speaking of single user multiple accounts. it looks like [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected] are coming from the same origin ip address. funny how that works out. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:28:22 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) make that five accounts From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:21:06 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) Make that four accounts. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:19:06 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) Way to attack people contributing to the list!! What makes you think they are the same person? because they disagree with your wrong opinion? Which one of those people said anything about "quickplay" at all? do you actually read what people write or do you just make things up in your head and respond in kind? A few loud mouths do not reflect the opinions of all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Evourr [[email protected]] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay The problem is this thread got derailed by one user with 3 subscribed accounts. (Liquid Source, Steam Commander, and Valve Monkey.) Additional information added to the return of the "status" command would suit your needs. The problem with your original statement is that you wanted Valve to implement a restriction on the quickplay clients so the motd was completely disabled, but you only wanted it so you could detect quickplay clients. 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